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MBB: Michigan 68 Stanford 65 - washingtonismoney - 12-21-2013

Michigan threatened to pull away most of the second half, and was probably the better team overall, but Chasson Randle flicked into a transcendental state, scoring 18 points in the second half and carrying the team offensively.


Re: MBB: Michigan 68 Stanford 65 - Hank 91 - 12-21-2013

I can't quite believe it, but I watched almost the entire second half, definitely the longest stretch of Stanford basketball that I've watched in probably five years or so. Things just might be looking up...


Re: MBB: Michigan 68 Stanford 65 - Farm93 - 12-21-2013

(12-21-2013, 09:00 PM)Hank 91 link Wrote:I can't quite believe it, but I watched almost the entire second half, definitely the longest stretch of Stanford basketball that I've watched in probably five years or so. Things just might be looking up...
Had a similar thought.  That was a quality loss in a game that Stanford would have been lucky to steal.  It was a very reasonable weekend.  Given the travel demands I am not sure any team outside of the top 15 team could have done much better than get a split. 

Stanford likely needs to go 12-6 in conference with a single win in the Pac-12 tournament to get into the NCAA tournament.  At 22-10, they could get a 9 or 10 seed.  I suspect there are more than 6 losses left on the schedule, but it could happen.


Re: MBB: Michigan 68 Stanford 65 - Spartandawg - 12-22-2013

(12-22-2013, 10:09 AM)garvin link Wrote:Losing to an unranked 6-4 team on a neutral court does not seem like much of a moral victory to me, nor does it suggest that we'll fare better than in the past in a much-improved Pac-12.

I wouldn't discount Walvy.  They have a decent team this year with a good coach and players that play hard.  They have a very good shot of making the tourney this year, IMO.



Re: MBB: Michigan 68 Stanford 65 - washingtonismoney - 12-22-2013

Irrespective of Michigan's quality, I'm not sure this team is a cut above previous Dawkins squads.

Here are KenPom's thoughts:
2013-14 (44)
2012-13 (44)
2011-12 (36)
2010-11 (98)

(Keep in mind that Dawkins's teams have tended to fade by the end of the year; I've been optimistic many times based on KenPom's rankings heading into conference play only for the Cardinal to lose its luster.)

ESPN's also introduced a "basketball power index", presumably based on similar principles as its football and soccer power indices:

2013-14 (45)
2012-13 (41)
2011-12 (58)

The problem, from a overall program perspective, is that the forties are a bubble range --  and of course a team could go on a hot streak and make it into the tournament without being better from a fundamental perspective. And if we want the team to get back to where it was during the Montgomery years, that can't happen; it's clear that Dawkins can't lift the team beyond an average level.