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Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-18-2012
UW's latest heist of Cal's OC Kiesau (ANOTHER supposedly elite recruiter) is starting to concern me. This link states a 3 yr deal at $700K/yr, which, similar to Lupoi's deal for $500K/yr appears to about double their salaries. A couple of issues with this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2017263609_uwfb18.html
1. I really have no idea of the structure of assistant coaches salaries, though I've seen numbers all over the place with the re-staffing of AZ, ASU, UCLA, WSU, and UW. Base salary vs add ons like TV show hosting etc make it hard to do apples to apples for a total compensation package. That being said, hyper inflation of salaries in our conference is not going to be a good thing for Stanford any more than the excess of the Yankees was good for baseball. Kiesau is no Gus Malzahn and Tupoi is no Jeff Casteel (AZ) so these contracts may establish a pattern that might blow up the structure in the conference.
2. Plus, on a personal level I'm offended that UW, who recently dropped their longstanding men's swimming team for budgetary reasons, now jumps in with these excessive salaries for what are really unproven coaches. While Stanford has been able to hold firm with its exception diversity of athletic programs, teams like wrestling and swimming have seen their conference competition drastically reduced / restructured etc. over the last 10-15 years to fewer teams and more travel in associations that are not really "Pac12". I think that is a loss for all those programs.
I had hoped to see the new TV money as ushering in a new 'happy time' to Olympic / non-revenue sports but runaway salary inflation in football may kill that before it gets started.
Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-18-2012
UW's latest heist of Cal's OC Kiesau (ANOTHER supposedly elite recruiter) is starting to concern me. This link states a 3 yr deal at $700K/yr, which, similar to Lupoi's deal for $500K/yr appears to about double their salaries. A couple of issues with this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2017263609_uwfb18.html
1. I really have no idea of the structure of assistant coaches salaries, though I've seen numbers all over the place with the re-staffing of AZ, ASU, UCLA, WSU, and UW. Base salary vs add ons like TV show hosting etc make it hard to do apples to apples for a total compensation package. That being said, hyper inflation of salaries in our conference is not going to be a good thing for Stanford any more than the excess of the Yankees was good for baseball. Kiesau is no Gus Malzahn and Tupoi is no Jeff Casteel (AZ) so these contracts may establish a pattern that might blow up the structure in the conference.
2. Plus, on a personal level I'm offended that UW, who recently dropped their longstanding men's swimming team for budgetary reasons, now jumps in with these excessive salaries for what are really unproven coaches. While Stanford has been able to hold firm with its exception diversity of athletic programs, teams like wrestling and swimming have seen their conference competition drastically reduced / restructured etc. over the last 10-15 years to fewer teams and more travel in associations that are not really "Pac12". I think that is a loss for all those programs.
I had hoped to see the new TV money as ushering in a new 'happy time' to Olympic / non-revenue sports but runaway salary inflation in football may kill that before it gets started.
Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-18-2012
UW's latest heist of Cal's OC Kiesau (ANOTHER supposedly elite recruiter) is starting to concern me. This link states a 3 yr deal at $700K/yr, which, similar to Lupoi's deal for $500K/yr appears to about double their salaries. A couple of issues with this:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/huskies/2017263609_uwfb18.html
1. I really have no idea of the structure of assistant coaches salaries, though I've seen numbers all over the place with the re-staffing of AZ, ASU, UCLA, WSU, and UW. Base salary vs add ons like TV show hosting etc make it hard to do apples to apples for a total compensation package. That being said, hyper inflation of salaries in our conference is not going to be a good thing for Stanford any more than the excess of the Yankees was good for baseball. Kiesau is no Gus Malzahn and Tupoi is no Jeff Casteel (AZ) so these contracts may establish a pattern that might blow up the structure in the conference.
2. Plus, on a personal level I'm offended that UW, who recently dropped their longstanding men's swimming team for budgetary reasons, now jumps in with these excessive salaries for what are really unproven coaches. While Stanford has been able to hold firm with its exception diversity of athletic programs, teams like wrestling and swimming have seen their conference competition drastically reduced / restructured etc. over the last 10-15 years to fewer teams and more travel in associations that are not really "Pac12". I think that is a loss for all those programs.
I had hoped to see the new TV money as ushering in a new 'happy time' to Olympic / non-revenue sports but runaway salary inflation in football may kill that before it gets started.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - washingtonismoney - 01-18-2012
Probably comparable to SC staff salaries--Lupoi makes similar money to Orgeron.
As to Kiseau, I've seen $800 thousand total as the contract, rather than annually.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - washingtonismoney - 01-18-2012
Probably comparable to SC staff salaries--Lupoi makes similar money to Orgeron.
As to Kiseau, I've seen $800 thousand total as the contract, rather than annually.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - washingtonismoney - 01-18-2012
Probably comparable to SC staff salaries--Lupoi makes similar money to Orgeron.
As to Kiseau, I've seen $800 thousand total as the contract, rather than annually.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-18-2012
Hope you're right about Kiesau and Condatta, who states clearly 700K annually, is wrong.
That would turn my concern from indignation, to mildly miffed with Tosh as just an outlier.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-18-2012
Hope you're right about Kiesau and Condatta, who states clearly 700K annually, is wrong.
That would turn my concern from indignation, to mildly miffed with Tosh as just an outlier.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-18-2012
Hope you're right about Kiesau and Condatta, who states clearly 700K annually, is wrong.
That would turn my concern from indignation, to mildly miffed with Tosh as just an outlier.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - washingtonismoney - 01-21-2012
According to Bob Condotta, UW beat reporter, Tosh's salary averages out to $418k. Reportedly, kal was willing to match to $300k (from $164k), so it's kind of hard to believe they couldn't find that extra $100k somewhere if sufficiently motivated.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - washingtonismoney - 01-21-2012
According to Bob Condotta, UW beat reporter, Tosh's salary averages out to $418k. Reportedly, kal was willing to match to $300k (from $164k), so it's kind of hard to believe they couldn't find that extra $100k somewhere if sufficiently motivated.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - washingtonismoney - 01-21-2012
According to Bob Condotta, UW beat reporter, Tosh's salary averages out to $418k. Reportedly, kal was willing to match to $300k (from $164k), so it's kind of hard to believe they couldn't find that extra $100k somewhere if sufficiently motivated.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - LuckE2Bhere - 01-22-2012
I doubt that they "couldn't find that extra $100k" (after all, California taxpayer wallets are supposed to be bottomless!). The issue with matching a bid like that for one of your employees is that it can throw-off your entire pay scale... now everyone else on your staff wants "just another $100k" to feel "fairly compensated". Clearly, Tosh has also demonstrated a willingness to bail, which is understandable (it is a business!), but worth considering. In my career, I've generally found that when you're paying your employees fairly, and they tell you they're still heading for greener pastures, you should probably let them go. After all, you should have a much better sense of their true "worth" than the guy bidding for their mercenary services.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - LuckE2Bhere - 01-22-2012
I doubt that they "couldn't find that extra $100k" (after all, California taxpayer wallets are supposed to be bottomless!). The issue with matching a bid like that for one of your employees is that it can throw-off your entire pay scale... now everyone else on your staff wants "just another $100k" to feel "fairly compensated". Clearly, Tosh has also demonstrated a willingness to bail, which is understandable (it is a business!), but worth considering. In my career, I've generally found that when you're paying your employees fairly, and they tell you they're still heading for greener pastures, you should probably let them go. After all, you should have a much better sense of their true "worth" than the guy bidding for their mercenary services.
Re: Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - LuckE2Bhere - 01-22-2012
I doubt that they "couldn't find that extra $100k" (after all, California taxpayer wallets are supposed to be bottomless!). The issue with matching a bid like that for one of your employees is that it can throw-off your entire pay scale... now everyone else on your staff wants "just another $100k" to feel "fairly compensated". Clearly, Tosh has also demonstrated a willingness to bail, which is understandable (it is a business!), but worth considering. In my career, I've generally found that when you're paying your employees fairly, and they tell you they're still heading for greener pastures, you should probably let them go. After all, you should have a much better sense of their true "worth" than the guy bidding for their mercenary services.
Re: Ted Miller Updates Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-24-2012
Here are some specifics recently aggregated by Ted Miller.
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/33530/huskies-top-pac-12-assistant-coach-pay
The earlier reported, highly inflated, Kiesau salary bump apparently did not occur. However, from this it looks like Tosh Lupoi easily doubled his salary and with performance bonus, possibly could move that up to around 250% of 2011. Not bad.
The rest of the info is informative in a general way; sort of a slot specific baseline for what Glenn mentions for those interested in following along.
Re: Ted Miller Updates Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-24-2012
Here are some specifics recently aggregated by Ted Miller.
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/33530/huskies-top-pac-12-assistant-coach-pay
The earlier reported, highly inflated, Kiesau salary bump apparently did not occur. However, from this it looks like Tosh Lupoi easily doubled his salary and with performance bonus, possibly could move that up to around 250% of 2011. Not bad.
The rest of the info is informative in a general way; sort of a slot specific baseline for what Glenn mentions for those interested in following along.
Re: Ted Miller Updates Assistant Coach Salary Inflation - unclechuck - 01-24-2012
Here are some specifics recently aggregated by Ted Miller.
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/33530/huskies-top-pac-12-assistant-coach-pay
The earlier reported, highly inflated, Kiesau salary bump apparently did not occur. However, from this it looks like Tosh Lupoi easily doubled his salary and with performance bonus, possibly could move that up to around 250% of 2011. Not bad.
The rest of the info is informative in a general way; sort of a slot specific baseline for what Glenn mentions for those interested in following along.