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Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - msqueri - 11-23-2025
1. We have the Axe! That was a season-defining win we will long remember. Indeed, I am hard-pressed to think of many games that change the entire complexion of a season like this one. Andrew Luck came into this season with a bold goal for a bowl despite our challenges and a less bold goal of a Big Game win to end our drought. The first unsurprisingly did not come to pass but Luck and Reich led this team in a way all season that built to as much of a "one game season" result as you can get. We will have a bad record this year, but thanks to yesterday's win we can view 2025 as a step in the right direction. We will end with our first post-pandemic four win season, the winningest season of the last five. We have the Axe for the first time since 2020, something Luck has put outsized importance on and quite plainly served as a catalyzing and unifying source of motivation for our players, who played with an intensity I wish we could bottle up every game. As somebody who fundamentally views 2025 as a punt of a season waiting for the next era of Stanford football to really start, I wasn't expecting to put great stock in individual games or even breaking the three win season streak if it meant only four wins. Now that it's happened, I can't deny that it feels like a catharsis and step in the right direction that validates the unusual Frank Reich interim arrangement and Luck's approach to this season. We won the one game season.
2. We will see where the algorithms place us when the dust settles in January (and will mostly have the picture by this time next week) but right now this looks like a successful season given where we started in terms of talent and coaching. Going into the year, I thought a top 80 team would be a good result showing very clear progress, and most to the point be good in light of coaching turmoil, a mostly minor league coaching staff, and a roster that lost its top playmakers. I thought it was possible Reich could do it but I would not have bet on Stanford arguably not even being in the bottom ten of Power Four teams. At least as of now, that's what Sagarin thinks. Sagarin #74 currently puts this team ahead of four ACC teams (including Cal) and six other power conference teams. This would put us on par with the 2019 Sagarin #73 team as the best full season Stanford team during our long seven year bowl drought. We have had scoreboard results this season befitting #85, #86, #63, #152, #152, #94, #27, #132, #98, #85, #20. In short, this is a team that we thought should be viewed as the caliber of teams in the 80s but just put an exclamation point on the season that gives the season a much better flavor than the team we saw against Hawaii, BYU, and North Carolina (what I would call our typical performances).
3. Big Game was our best game of the season as judged by scoreboard outcome relative to opponent, PFF grades, and of course vibes and fun. The story of the game was the complete momentum shifting two defensive touchdowns. This will always be the scoop and score game, remembered by Stanford fans and even nationally to some extent for the iconic Luck sideline interview celebration. A perfect encapsulation of the energy he is trying to bring the program. Nonetheless, I want it understood that we had a yard advantage in yards per play. This was not a game we won only because of fumbles - and regardless a defense that comes in with intensity and physicality gets credit when it does create turnovers, even if the fumble category is more luck-dependent. This joined the Boston College game as really the only games we've outplayed an opponent in that yards per play sense. That should be understood and celebrated. As we all saw with our own eyes, the defense gets the bulk of the credit. PFF as of now has it as our best single game grade on defense since 2015. That's a long time! The offense did some good things too, and in particular I want to acknowledge our best team pass blocking grade of any game this season. It was big for our chances in this one to only give up one sack. The other thing that was fun and really goes without saying is that whooping Cal in a demoralizing second half is a lot of fun for a Stanford fan. I am not used to having to do the garbage time calculation for games we win. In this one we enjoyed ten minutes of garbage time as the Williams touchdown put the game out of reach.
4. The offense was subpar but the defense was more good than the offense was bad, hence the statistical and scoring delta between the teams. The offense scored 1.89 points per non-garbage drive, making the #48 points per drive defense look like #35. The defense allowed 1.0 points per non-garbage drive, making the #86 points per drive offense look like #135. The offense had the eighth most yards per play of the 11 teams on Cal's weak (#64) schedule. The defense was the only team to hold Cal's offense under four yards per play in the last 35 games, going back to the early season 2023 Cal-Auburn game. Special teams was a terrible weakness for us but even that plus the offense's mediocre play was easily outweighed by how good the defense was.
5. The standout stat for the defense is giving up 12 yards rushing on less than half a yard per carry. Twelve. Half a yard. The April defense had two games that accomplished that in 2023 but it's been a minute. The novelty of it slightly off realizing that Virginia did the same thing to Cal two games ago but being the second most stifling run defense a team plays in a season is a great thing. The pass defense was also very good, a complete defensive performance that makes my heart sing. Yesterday was the best defensive yards per attempt we've had since Shaw was coaching and the best defensive passer rating in a bit over two years. We were top four of Cal opponents in pass defense (top three in yards per attemp and top four in passer rating). We also got to JKS, with five sacks our most in a game since...last year's Big Game. I am eager for FEI's algorithm to update as going into the game it already thought we had the #58 defense and obviously our best defensive game in years will make that go up. The defense looks like it will end up as kind of poor man's Teevens era defense, a group that is competent and would be understood to be much better if it didn't have to play hamstrung by such weak offense.
6. The offense was subpar but with our team being only a bit subpar on that side of the ball is what we need to let the defense give us a chance. Cal has a good pass defense so as bad as 123 yards passing sounds it was actually a middling performance by our passing game compared to Cal opponents (again, albeit a bad schedule for Cal0. We were just under Cal's season average in yards per attempt allowed (six teams did better, four worse) and just over their season average in passer rating allowed (five teams did better, five worse). On the ground, other than Boston College yesterday was our most effective run game of the year and subjectively it was fun to watch Ford do his thing and impose our will up front. However, Cal had a lot to say about that and I wouldn't say our run game performance was impressive. In the last two months only North Carolina has been less effective on the ground than we were. The reality is that Cal can't stop the run and we just took advantage of that rather than distinguishing ourselves.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - msqueri - 11-23-2025
7. We are hopefully going to be scouring the transfer portal to hope we can do better at the QB position in 2026 than we did this year. Yesterday was a typical performance for our QB year. Some good to be sure but generally too low of a level for competitive power conference offensive play. Brown was #77 of 120 in Total QBR this week. Among 13 Gulbranson and Brown performances this year, Brown's Total QBR showings rank fourth, sixth, seventh, and eighth. Remarkable consistency. He's been bad but not awful in literally every game he's played this year. But that adds up to pretty awful over a season, relatively speaking. If he had enough action to qualify, Brown would be #115 of 134 QBs nationally (Gulbranson is #125). In PFF grades on the year, among 163 QBs nationally Brown is #154 and Gulbranson is #155. It's clear we need a new QB via the transfer portal.
8. For the moment I want post-Big Game vibes to mostly focus on celebration and thanking Reich for what he did this year. Great capstone and that locker room scene of Luck and Reich is off-the-charts good feeling inducing for Stanford fans. Let's bask in that. but very soon we need to focus on the roster construction for 2026 and there are some players who I think are genuinely good. This roster is not good but we have some guys. On offense, what Ford has done behind our line is impressive. If he gets 26 yards rushing next week he will have our most rushing yards in a season since Cameron Scarlett in 2019 (though Austin Jones' pandemic-shortened season was more dominant, albeit behind a massively better line). Ford is eighth in the ACC in yards from scrimmage per game. I think he would be a superstar behind a real line. The Notre Dame game could decide our offensive MVP between him and Williams. While Williams is not relevant for 2026 roster construction, a few words on him: by PFF's lights, Ford and Williams are our best offensive players since Drake Nugent in 2022 and Drew Dalman and Davis Mills in 2020. Literally no one had "arguably better than Elic Ayomanor" on the bingo card for CJ Williams in 2025. Magical year for him and I think he has salvaged an NFL career. [Big Game moving the chains (first down) leaderboard: Ford (8), Williams (4, also drew a pass interference), Blackburn, Elijah Brown, Roush] But back to star guys we need to retain (leaving aside OL for now because I've said so much about that elsewhere): Rose, Green, Galvan, and Patterson (not an option to retain as a seventh year guy), in that order, are the highest graded non-David Bailey defenders we have had since Paulson Adebo in 2019. Given Bailey's usage saga it is arguable that Rose and Green are having our best defensive seasons in over half a decade (though I did love all those Bailey sacks). These guys may be good enough to cost us a real chunk of change unless they give us a discount.
9. It is crazy to think we scored two defensive touchdowns and neither guy is going to get my game ball but Rose just had too special of a night. He had not previously had a chance to play in Big Game and came out inspired. Really one of the best games I can recall. I counted a beyond astounding 13 positive box score plays. Between his tackles and fumble recovery he was the proximate cause for the ball turning over to our offense's hands four times (three third down stops forcing punts and the fumble recovery), and is garbage time sacks provided the perfect emotional cherry on top for his game and the team's broader humiliation of the Golden Bears. That was such a special performance. But for that we'd be talking about Jay Green as having one of the classic Big Game performances (I guess we can talk about both), with the signature play of the game of Luck cheering him on racing down the sideline for the pivotal touchdown, being in the mix to cause several tackles for loss, and like Rose not taking the foot off the pedal a lick in garbage time. All gas no breaks for our defense in this one. Among others, Galvan had another really good game, starring on third and fourth downs in addition to forcing the Darrius Davis scoop and score. Wright had a very big first half impact but judging by snaps I'm wondering if he reaggravated an injury. In any case, Nicholson then really stepped up with a brobdingnagian six positive box score plays, and doing it in various ways (tackling, pass breakup, punctuating sack); he has become a top ten retention priority for me. Staples, Cooper, Tafiti, Leigber, Patterson, and Rowell (needed garbage time) all had multiple plays show up.
10. Terrible day by special teams and frankly a terrible season. FEI has us #91 (will definitely fall after yesterday) and SP+ says #126. I hope our next coach takes this phase seriously (not saying Reich doesn't but Taylor showed some neglect and this season has gone sideways in that realm). It was hard to fathom yesterday how disastrous the kicking game was for a previously reliable Kenney and that operation. Getting a chip shot field goal blocked and missing another one resulted in two red zone trips with zero points - unacceptable - before making the 36 yarder to make his day slightly less terrible. Flintoft had net punts of 39 to the 22 (bad), 69 when tacking on the Cal penalties (out-kicked coverage to allow a big return but Cal getting flagged made it an incredible result), 13 to our own 45 (completely disastrous), and 46 to the 14 (solid). After Thorpe didn't give us a lot of yardage this season High got more action, but punt returns of two and zero yards and a bad penalty for the unit's equipment violation for having two number 0 players on the field was not a productive switch. At least Pulsipher's kick coverage tackle on the opening kick got us off to a good start. I've noticed him in other games so maybe he gets the hold your nose game ball this week.
11. Game balls: Ford, Rose, Pulsipher, Reich
12. This felt like the right cap to the season and it's almost too bad we still have to play another week. I am sure the players and coaches will have a better attitude about it than I will. For my part, I am already essentially checked out on the 2025 season and will be focused this week on the seemingly soon-to-be-announced next Stanford coach, especially if it's announced early this week. I predicted/recommended earlier this season on Talking Trees that this week would be the time in light of the need to seize narrative and end the year on a positive note in spite of an almost assured blood bath at the hands of the Irish. And now we have rumblings the announcement is coming. It will be hard to focus on Notre Dame if that's true. However, now that yesterday has happened maybe Big Game going so well will make us want to give Reich a few days to bask and then we'll do the new coach announcement after Thanksgiving. I could dig that. As for the remaining game on our schedule, I imagine I will go and want to find good tailgates but I don't think we have any chance and would rather the season ended on yesterday's fantastic note. And what a note it was. Thank you Frank Reich! Thank you Matt Rose! Thank you Jay Green! Thank you Micah Ford! Thank you CJ Williams!
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - jacket3ree - 11-23-2025
Nice work as always Matt. Think you deserve to take the Notre Dame game off.
Glad Stanford avoided another 3-9 but I was so uncomfortably numb from the Tech debacle to watch a second of it. I did commandeer the big TV in front and sat there through an 0-28 hole in front of an electric crowd in prime time, climbing back to within 14 inside the 5 and then a disastrous pick 14, then climbing back to within 7 and a 3rd and 4 to get the ball back with perfect timing for King to do his magic only to watch safeties backpedaling to leave maybe 9 guys anywhere near where they needed to be (WTF coverage is this?) and the inevitable big dagger. Not quite as much on the line, but almost the exact storyline of the 2004 MBB Final. When something really big is on the line, Tech will find a way to crush your soul. Gotta stop caring about any of this. Pretty dang close with Stanford. I did think the kitchen was awfully quiet and confirmed my suspicions later. Looks like Stanford beat the coach out of Cal, so that's good for all concerned, I suppose.
Can't wait for that playoff with seven ******* SEC teams.
SkiBum80 - SkiBum80 - 11-23-2025
Appreciate the detailed analysis
I think for QB Brown it was a Jekyll & Hyde story of halves
Or rather, Hyde & Jekyll
After a very not good 1st half he suddenly looked far better in 2nd half
Was it that he suddenly got better?
Or more that he was getting a big running game out of Ford, better pass protection, and more open receivers?
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - BigJohn043 - 11-24-2025
I think this year has shown some progress. I am a big believer in objective computer evaluations and we are just a bit better. That is good.
But we still don't have a roster that can compete. That is job #1.
Get a coach that provides a bit of a splash. I lean towards NFL because I think we can start to sell that aspect of our program. We aren't going to get a college guy that gets anyone excited....
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - Mick - 11-24-2025
Stanford broke its string of four consecutive 3-9 seasons, currently standing at 4-7.
I think Stanford will upset #9 Notre Dame this weekend, because:
1) Notre Dame just had a brobdingnagian, blowout win over Syracuse, 70-7. They will let down.
2) Classic trap game for Notre Dame. They have won nine straight since their 0-2 start with losses of 3 points (Miami) and 1 point (Texas A&M).
3) All nine of those wins have been by 10 or more points. Closest was a 34-24 win over USC. They're due for a letdown.
4) Stanford now coming into its own, particularly on defense.
5) Turkey hangover for ND, too much tryptophan. They'll be sluggish.
6) Most of all, the 10:30 p.m. start time (7:30 pacific). Notre Dame will be ahead in the first half, Stanford will win a close game in the second half as UND's players will have body clocks past midnight.
Stanford, 28-27, 5-7 final record.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - Maple Leaf - 11-24-2025
(11-24-2025, 10:10 AM)Mick Wrote: Stanford broke its string of four consecutive 3-9 seasons, currently standing at 4-7.
I think Stanford will upset #9 Notre Dame this weekend, because:
1) Notre Dame just had a brobdingnagian, blowout win over Syracuse, 70-7. They will let down.
2) Classic trap game for Notre Dame. They have won nine straight since their 0-2 start with losses of 3 points (Miami) and 1 point (Texas A&M).
3) All nine of those wins have been by 10 or more points. Closest was a 34-24 win over USC. They're due for a letdown.
4) Stanford now coming into its own, particularly on defense.
5) Turkey hangover for ND, too much tryptophan. They'll be sluggish.
6) Most of all, the 10:30 p.m. start time (7:30 pacific). Notre Dame will be ahead in the first half, Stanford will win a close game in the second half as UND's players will have body clocks past midnight.
Stanford, 28-27, 5-7 final record.
One more add: Stanford's loss to Pitt at home will add to ND's compliancy.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - Mick - 11-24-2025
(11-24-2025, 10:25 AM)Maple Leaf Wrote:(11-24-2025, 10:10 AM)Mick Wrote: Stanford broke its string of four consecutive 3-9 seasons, currently standing at 4-7.
I think Stanford will upset #9 Notre Dame this weekend, because:
1) Notre Dame just had a brobdingnagian, blowout win over Syracuse, 70-7. They will let down.
2) Classic trap game for Notre Dame. They have won nine straight since their 0-2 start with losses of 3 points (Miami) and 1 point (Texas A&M).
3) All nine of those wins have been by 10 or more points. Closest was a 34-24 win over USC. They're due for a letdown.
4) Stanford now coming into its own, particularly on defense.
5) Turkey hangover for ND, too much tryptophan. They'll be sluggish.
6) Most of all, the 10:30 p.m. start time (7:30 pacific). Notre Dame will be ahead in the first half, Stanford will win a close game in the second half as UND's players will have body clocks past midnight.
Stanford, 28-27, 5-7 final record.
One more add: Stanford's loss to Pitt at home will add to ND's compliancy.
Stanford, 30-27, 5-7 final record. BTW Notre Dame is favored by 32.5, largest margin this upcoming weekend.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - SkiBum80 - 11-24-2025
(11-24-2025, 10:10 AM)Mick Wrote: Stanford broke its string of four consecutive 3-9 seasons, currently standing at 4-7.
I think Stanford will upset #9 Notre Dame this weekend, because:
1) Notre Dame just had a brobdingnagian, blowout win over Syracuse, 70-7. They will let down.
2) Classic trap game for Notre Dame. They have won nine straight since their 0-2 start with losses of 3 points (Miami) and 1 point (Texas A&M).
3) All nine of those wins have been by 10 or more points. Closest was a 34-24 win over USC. They're due for a letdown.
4) Stanford now coming into its own, particularly on defense.
5) Turkey hangover for ND, too much tryptophan. They'll be sluggish.
6) Most of all, the 10:30 p.m. start time (7:30 pacific). Notre Dame will be ahead in the first half, Stanford will win a close game in the second half as UND's players will have body clocks past midnight.
Stanford, 28-27, 5-7 final record.
Bartender, I'll have what he's having, but just a single please, trying to pace myself
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - Mick - 11-24-2025
(11-24-2025, 12:07 PM)SkiBum80 Wrote:(11-24-2025, 10:10 AM)Mick Wrote: Stanford broke its string of four consecutive 3-9 seasons, currently standing at 4-7.
I think Stanford will upset #9 Notre Dame this weekend, because:
1) Notre Dame just had a brobdingnagian, blowout win over Syracuse, 70-7. They will let down.
2) Classic trap game for Notre Dame. They have won nine straight since their 0-2 start with losses of 3 points (Miami) and 1 point (Texas A&M).
3) All nine of those wins have been by 10 or more points. Closest was a 34-24 win over USC. They're due for a letdown.
4) Stanford now coming into its own, particularly on defense.
5) Turkey hangover for ND, too much tryptophan. They'll be sluggish.
6) Most of all, the 10:30 p.m. start time (7:30 pacific). Notre Dame will be ahead in the first half, Stanford will win a close game in the second half as UND's players will have body clocks past midnight.
Stanford, 28-27, 5-7 final record.
Bartender, I'll have what he's having, but just a single please, trying to pace myself
Of all the NCAA games this weekend, Notre Dame v. Stanford has the largest spread, opening at -29.5, now at -33.5 points.
2025 College Football Odds - NCAAF Betting Odds & Lines
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - martyup - 11-24-2025
Perfect set up for an upset of brobdingnagian proportions.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - PalmTree - 11-24-2025
(11-24-2025, 03:45 PM)Mick Wrote:(11-24-2025, 12:07 PM)SkiBum80 Wrote:(11-24-2025, 10:10 AM)Mick Wrote: Stanford broke its string of four consecutive 3-9 seasons, currently standing at 4-7.
I think Stanford will upset #9 Notre Dame this weekend, because:
1) Notre Dame just had a brobdingnagian, blowout win over Syracuse, 70-7. They will let down.
2) Classic trap game for Notre Dame. They have won nine straight since their 0-2 start with losses of 3 points (Miami) and 1 point (Texas A&M).
3) All nine of those wins have been by 10 or more points. Closest was a 34-24 win over USC. They're due for a letdown.
4) Stanford now coming into its own, particularly on defense.
5) Turkey hangover for ND, too much tryptophan. They'll be sluggish.
6) Most of all, the 10:30 p.m. start time (7:30 pacific). Notre Dame will be ahead in the first half, Stanford will win a close game in the second half as UND's players will have body clocks past midnight.
Stanford, 28-27, 5-7 final record.
Bartender, I'll have what he's having, but just a single please, trying to pace myself
Of all the NCAA games this weekend, Notre Dame v. Stanford has the largest spread, opening at -29.5, now at -33.5 points.
2025 College Football Odds - NCAAF Betting Odds & Lines
The Toejams were favored by 41 in 2007....
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - TonyLima - 11-24-2025
(11-24-2025, 04:23 PM)martyup Wrote: Perfect set up for an upset of brobdingnagian proportions.Clear violation. Five syllables is one over the local limit.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - martyup - 11-24-2025
(11-24-2025, 05:41 PM)TonyLima Wrote:(11-24-2025, 04:23 PM)martyup Wrote: Perfect set up for an upset of brobdingnagian proportions.Clear violation. Five syllables is one over the local limit.
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RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - jacket3ree - 11-25-2025
Notre Dame lost close games to Miami and aTm then basically curb-stomped the rest of their schedule, which includes some decent teams -- teams all significantly better than Stanford -- like Pitt, Navy, USC, Boise State, and NC State. If they lose another game they will miss the playoff. They have one more game to play and not lose. They will not be complacent. Stanford might win, maybe by playing batshit why not crazy, but it won't be because Notre Dame overlooked them or is complacent. They don't know their next game after this, so it's not a trap game.
As an aside, who is the next Marcus Freeman? Definitely not a splash hire like some here seem to want. I get it, Stanford is wandering in the media/spotlight wilderness, so it is different than in South Bend, but just find a good coach.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - Goose - 11-25-2025
(11-25-2025, 01:55 PM)jacket3ree Wrote: Notre Dame lost close games to Miami and aTm then basically curb-stomped the rest of their schedule, which includes some decent teams -- teams all significantly better than Stanford -- like Pitt, Navy, USC, Boise State, and NC State. If they lose another game they will miss the playoff. They have one more game to play and not lose. They will not be complacent. Stanford might win, maybe by playing batshit why not crazy, but it won't be because Notre Dame overlooked them or is complacent. They don't know their next game after this, so it's not a trap game.Agree with both of the above. The list of qualifications proposed for our next head coach is ginormous. There are a whole lot of good coaches out there that probably meet 3/4 of them, but NOBODY meets all of them. So far,nobody has a hiring algorithm that is guaranteed to produce a "winning" head coach. Part of it will still be a subjective decision. Undoubtedly it will be heavily modulated by who is interested in coaching Stanford. Nothing new about that.
As an aside, who is the next Marcus Freeman? Definitely not a splash hire like some here seem to want. I get it, Stanford is wandering in the media/spotlight wilderness, so it is different than in South Bend, but just find a good coach.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - TonyLima - 11-25-2025
(11-24-2025, 08:22 PM)martyup Wrote:Marty! I didn’t think you cared!(11-24-2025, 05:41 PM)TonyLima Wrote:(11-24-2025, 04:23 PM)martyup Wrote: Perfect set up for an upset of brobdingnagian proportions.Clear violation. Five syllables is one over the local limit.
"brobdingnagian"
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - martyup - 11-25-2025
(11-25-2025, 06:32 PM)Luckie Wrote: squeri. . . . I know you got congratulations for hours of posts and bios for 60 possible Stanford coaches but why not a list with candidates tied to Luck since that would actually make sense to discuss on the board.
He was congratulated for his effort. Where is your list with analysis?
BTW, welcome to the Cardboard Luckie.
RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - ADPinWDC - 11-25-2025
(11-24-2025, 08:22 PM)martyup Wrote:(11-24-2025, 05:41 PM)TonyLima Wrote:(11-24-2025, 04:23 PM)martyup Wrote: Perfect set up for an upset of brobdingnagian proportions.Clear violation. Five syllables is one over the local limit.
"brobdingnagian"
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RE: Sunday morning (err, afternoon) thoughts - Big Game - Jamesy - 11-25-2025
(11-25-2025, 06:32 PM)Luckie Wrote: squeri. Someone has to step up and fact check you every so often ha. Many people caution over years that you have to make sure everyone knows you are right no matter what and smartest guy in a room, I hope they are wrong. It’s why I never posted over the years until trying now because what’s the point? A few of ur recent comments are blended in one reply so we don’t crowd the board. Writing that everyone is shocked how CJ did this season is wrong. Many in the country knew he would be just like this season and like Elic level later in college career. Your eval was just way off no big deal. You like to double triple down on initial opinions. You actually said it’s all such a surprise and nobody had him reaching Elic level. It took multiple 100 yard games before you said much positive about him or a game ball because it didn’t fit your eval. CJ was #7 wr in nation so it was really no surprise to anyone he would reach these levels. Another uninformed post was you wanted all this credit for saying Bill Belichick only won because of Tom Brady. He had stout Patriot defenses, best special teams, great line, really good draft picks by Belichick and coaching. I’m not a BB fan at all but what he did as head coach is not a fluke. He was able to consistently win over decades and end up second winningest coach in history for reasons outside of just one player. I know you got congratulations for hours of posts and bios for 60 possible Stanford coaches but why not a list with candidates tied to Luck since that would actually make sense to discuss on the board? I will try to look into it when free and post any match. I don’t have unlimited time to research Stanford all day as have a family and work that comes first.
While CJ was a highly rated HS recruit, there is nothing about his record at USC/Wisconsin that would indicate he would have a breakout year. His most productive games prior to this season were five catches, and 60 reception yards.