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Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - terry - 11-14-2011

Andrew Luck is getting close to breaking several significant Stanford records. He has a chance to tie or break the following records this week against UC Berkeley:

Most TD Passes, Career
77  John Elway
74  Andrew Luck
72  Steve Stenstrom
52  Jim Plunkett

Most TD Passes, Season
32  Andrew Luck, 2010
29  Andrew Luck, 2011 to date
27  John Elway, 1980
27  Steve Stenstrom, 1993

Most Total Offense, Career
9,825  Steve Stenstrom
9,549  Andrew Luck
9,070  John Elway
7,887  Jim Plunkett


Re: Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - Rando - 11-14-2011

My guess is he breaks all three of them.


Re: Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - jayasena - 11-14-2011

I realize the official records are only kept of the totals but does anyone happen to know what the per-game numbers are for TD passes and total offense?

I'm not implying the per-game numbers are necessarily more relevant -- there are other variables that change over time that are even harder to normalize -- but just curious.


Re: Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - terry - 11-14-2011

Stanford doesn't publish stats on a per-game basis.

I don't have enough data to calculate good per-game stats for all players. The missing piece of data for many players is the number of games in a given year. To prepare good per-game stats, I would need to go back to each season's stats and figure out how many games each player played that year.


Re: Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - terry - 11-14-2011

For many years, bowl game stats were not included in the official stats. In 2002, the NCAA changed that policy and started including bowl game stats in the official stats. This change was not retroactive. The NCAA stated that the new policy would be in effect going forward, but pre-2002 stats would not be revised retroactively to include bowl games.

The Pac 10 nevertheless decided that it would implement the new policy retroactively (for most purposes). The Pac 12 record book therefore includes stats from pre-2002 bowl games (for most purposes).

This means that the NCAA record book and the Pac 12 record book are inconsistent in some places. For example, if you look up the career all-purpose yardage total for Darrin Nelson or the career rushing total for Marcus Allen, the NCAA record book and the Pac 12 record book will give you different numbers.

Stanford follows the NCAA's policy and has not retroactively changed its pre-2002 records. So, Stanford's record book is consistent with the NCAA record book, but not always consistent with the Pac 12 record book. The stats listed in my earlier post are from Stanford's record book, and do not include pre-2002 bowl games.

Including bowl games, the stats in my earlier post would be as follows. The changes reflect bowl game stats for Jim Plunkett and Steve Stenstrom:

Most TD Passes, Career
77  John Elway
75  Steve Stenstrom
74  Andrew Luck
53  Jim Plunkett

Most TD Passes, Season
32  Andrew Luck, 2010
29  Steve Stenstrom, 1993
29  Andrew Luck, 2011 to date
27  John Elway, 1980

Most Total Offense, Career
10,179  Steve Stenstrom
9,549  Andrew Luck
9,070  John Elway
8,178  Jim Plunkett


Re: Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - Nan3cy - 11-14-2011

Elway did all that without the benefits of ANY bowl games...


Re: Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - 76lsjumb - 11-14-2011

(11-14-2011, 07:15 PM)Nan3cy link Wrote:Elway did all that without the benefits of ANY bowl games...

Two words:  Kenny Margerum [for at least two years, I think]. 

That is not meant to be a slight on anyone -- Elway, Luck, Owusu, the Whalii, Baldwin, or anyone else -- but I have found myself wondering on a number of occasions [including after seeing him walking around Chuck Taylor Grove on Saturday before the game], what if Luck had Margerum to throw to on some of those deep routes this year?  A guy can dream...


Re: Andrew Luck is closing in on several school records - terry - 11-14-2011

(11-14-2011, 07:41 PM)76lsjumb link Wrote:[quote author=Nan3cy link=topic=4915.msg35313#msg35313 date=1321323345]
Elway did all that without the benefits of ANY bowl games...

Two words:  Kenny Margerum [for at least two years, I think]. 

That is not meant to be a slight on anyone -- Elway, Luck, Owusu, the Whalii, Baldwin, or anyone else -- but I have found myself wondering on a number of occasions [including after seeing him walking around Chuck Taylor Grove on Saturday before the game], what if Luck had Margerum to throw to on some of those deep routes this year?  A guy can dream...
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Kenny is over 50, so I'm not sure he could still get open against Pac 12 defenses. . . .