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this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - 82lsju - 09-17-2021

Quote:Stanford welcomed the largest incoming undergraduate class in its history – 2,131 first-year and 66 transfer students

https://news.stanford.edu/today/2021/09/17/capturing-131st-new-student-orientation-opening-convocation/?utm_source=Stanford+Report&utm_campaign=2f7e919a9f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_09_16_03_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_29ce9f751e-2f7e919a9f-52343633

classes previously have usually been 1,700-1,800.

This year's incoming class was increased due to a significant number of deferrals from the pervious year

Quote:spring [2020], 376 first-year students admitted to Stanford opted to take a gap year

https://stanforddaily.com/2021/01/26/stanford-delays-release-of-admissions-decisions-after-notable-increase-in-applications/?fbclid=IwAR2qeSGzo1kF2xKm3tOfYfDg18B5uz37Rjg0P4_capB459eU4K2R0z7Y5K8


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - ca245 - 09-17-2021

So this year's larger class size is anomalous and unlikely to continue into future years? If so, too bad, as I was hoping otherwise. A smaller class may be nice for bragging about how exclusive we are, but it is better to find room for more of the many highly qualified applicants we get.


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - Papa John - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 07:04 AM)82lsju Wrote:  
Quote:Stanford welcomed the largest incoming undergraduate class in its history – 2,131 first-year and 66 transfer students

https://news.stanford.edu/today/2021/09/17/capturing-131st-new-student-orientation-opening-convocation/?utm_source=Stanford+Report&utm_campaign=2f7e919a9f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2021_09_16_03_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_29ce9f751e-2f7e919a9f-52343633

classes previously have usually been 1,700-1,800.

This year's incoming class was increased due to a significant number of deferrals from the pervious year

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I never thought of 2020 as penetrable...


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - 82lsju - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 09:52 AM)ca245 Wrote:  So this year's larger class size is anomalous and unlikely to continue into future years? If so, too bad, as I was hoping otherwise. A smaller class may be nice for bragging about how exclusive we are, but it is better to find room for more of the many highly qualified applicants we get.

given undergrads can now live on campus all four years if the class size went up by ~300 per year the University needs ~1200 more dorm spaces, given the new General Use Permit was abandoned a couple of years ago I don't see how they could accommodate the increase in students without more dorms and I doubt many current students would be in favor of the old days when most undergrad ended up off campus for a year.

total undergrad enrollment last year was 6,366 which was 600-700 less than each of the previous four years, which to my implies that in addition to the 326 frosh who deferred ~300 other undergrads also took a gap year.  Total undergrad enrollment for this year should be available by the end of Oct

https://registrar.stanford.edu/everyone/enrollment-statistics/enrollment-statistics-2020-21

It will be interesting to see if there are any complications from having a bulge of students work their way through the University over the next four years.


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - CompSci87 - 09-17-2021

I imagine next year's admitted class may be smaller than usual to compensate, so that dorms don't overflow.


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - BostonCard - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 11:09 AM)CompSci87 Wrote:  I imagine next year's admitted class may be smaller than usual to compensate, so that dorms don't overflow.

I imagine that last year had fewer enrolled freshmen, so overcrowding shouldn't be an issue for dorms until 2024/25 (when the entering students in 2019 will have graduated), and if you have a small class next year, then the undergraduate population would be below normal in 2025/26.  So this might have reverberations down the line, but maybe a combination of slightly lower enrollment in the next three years, and then natural diffusion (as some subset of people take fifth years).

BC


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - chrisk - 09-17-2021

Last year, when EVGR (Escondido Village Graduate Residences) opened, one entire building housing 700 students was dedicated to undergraduates. This year, as dorms reopen to normal capacity, that building is still dedicated to undergraduates with each of the 8 new S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhoods equally represented, so Stanford can handle more undergrads.

The plan was to transition this building to graduate housing, but I don’t think there is a definite timetable.

With Stanford and Santa Clara County unable to agree on a plan for further development, it could be awhile.

While this building is dedicated to undergraduates, there could be a noticeable increase in undergrads.


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - BostonCard - 09-17-2021

The tide is turning against NIMBYism; yesterday governor Newsome signed SB9 and SB10.  I don't think these bills would impact Stanford directly, since it is not zoned for single family homes (so I don't want to go off on a tangent about those specific bills), but I think it represents a broader rethink about how the State view attempts by local communities to limit housing in their midst.  I wonder if, going forward, Stanford's plans, especially as they pertain to residential housing for undergraduates and graduate students will be harder to oppose, whether or not the legislature enacts further legislation to try to alleviate the housing crisis.

BC


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - 2006alum - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 12:03 PM)chrisk Wrote:   with each of the 8 new S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhoods equally represented

Maybe since I was a precocious child I'm destined to get old, crusty, and cantankerous prematurely as well, but: the idea of being forced into neighborhoods named after the letters in my Alma mater's name can't help but make me react that, per Count Von Count, the S stands for Stupid. I assume the thinking is that letters of the alphabet will not one day be deemed problematic, but back in my day...


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - chrisk - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 12:21 PM)2006alum Wrote:  
(09-17-2021, 12:03 PM)chrisk Wrote:   with each of the 8 new S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhoods equally represented

Maybe since I was a precocious child I'm destined to get old, crusty, and cantankerous prematurely as well, but: the idea of being forced into neighborhoods named after the letters in my Alma mater's name can't help but make me react that, per Count Von Count, the S stands for Stupid. I assume the thinking is that letters of the alphabet will not one day be deemed problematic, but back in my day...

The neighborhoods now seem to also be identified by the name of the largest dorm in the neighborhood.

(09-17-2021, 12:19 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  The tide is turning against NIMBYism; yesterday governor Newsome signed SB9 and SB10.  I don't think these bills would impact Stanford directly, since it is not zoned for single family homes (so I don't want to go off on a tangent about those specific bills), but I think it represents a broader rethink about how the State view attempts by local communities to limit housing in their midst.  I wonder if, going forward, Stanford's plans, especially as they pertain to residential housing for undergraduates and graduate students will be harder to oppose, whether or not the legislature enacts further legislation to try to alleviate the housing crisis.

BC

That is probably what Stanford was hoping for when they called off the negotiations with the SC County on the planning document, but Palo Alto resident Joe Simitian of the county and the current Palo Alto City Council are a long way from giving in to Stanford. Stanford wants to build housing, but it wants the capability to build some academic space
as well. It will take more than SB9 and SB10 to break this stalemate.


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - BostonCard - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 12:52 PM)chrisk Wrote:  That is probably what Stanford was hoping for when they called off the negotiations with the SC County on the planning document, but Palo Alto resident Joe Simitian of the county and the current Palo Alto City Council are a long way from giving in to Stanford.  Stanford wants to build housing, but it wants the capability to build some academic space
as well.  It will take more than SB9 and SB10 to break this stalemate.

Yeah, I don't think SB9/10 will apply to Stanford, but my sense is that the motivations that gave rise to them will, and that these are not going to be the last pro-housing measures to come from Sacramento.  With regards to academic space, I wonder how much new ways of working and working from home will change the demand for added space.  You could imagine more people doing hybrid work (and even hybrid teaching) and that opening up some office and classroom space on campus.  You'll still have issues with lab space, though.

BC


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - Snorlax94 - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 12:21 PM)2006alum Wrote:  
(09-17-2021, 12:03 PM)chrisk Wrote:   with each of the 8 new S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhoods equally represented

Maybe since I was a precocious child I'm destined to get old, crusty, and cantankerous prematurely as well, but: the idea of being forced into neighborhoods named after the letters in my Alma mater's name can't help but make me react that, per Count Von Count, the S stands for Stupid. I assume the thinking is that letters of the alphabet will not one day be deemed problematic, but back in my day...

My recollection is that the S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhood names were only temporary placeholders, until the neighborhoods could name themselves.


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - CompSci87 - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 03:36 PM)Snorlax94 Wrote:  
(09-17-2021, 12:21 PM)2006alum Wrote:  
(09-17-2021, 12:03 PM)chrisk Wrote:   with each of the 8 new S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhoods equally represented

Maybe since I was a precocious child I'm destined to get old, crusty, and cantankerous prematurely as well, but: the idea of being forced into neighborhoods named after the letters in my Alma mater's name can't help but make me react that, per Count Von Count, the S stands for Stupid. I assume the thinking is that letters of the alphabet will not one day be deemed problematic, but back in my day...

My recollection is that the S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhood names were only temporary placeholders, until the neighborhoods could name themselves.

One really needs to be named for Fred Rogers.


RE: this year's incoming undergrad class 2,131 people - cctop - 09-17-2021

(09-17-2021, 03:36 PM)Snorlax94 Wrote:  
(09-17-2021, 12:21 PM)2006alum Wrote:  
(09-17-2021, 12:03 PM)chrisk Wrote:   with each of the 8 new S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhoods equally represented

Maybe since I was a precocious child I'm destined to get old, crusty, and cantankerous prematurely as well, but: the idea of being forced into neighborhoods named after the letters in my Alma mater's name can't help but make me react that, per Count Von Count, the S stands for Stupid. I assume the thinking is that letters of the alphabet will not one day be deemed problematic, but back in my day...

My recollection is that the S-T-A-N-F-O-R-D neighborhood names were only temporary placeholders, until the neighborhoods could name themselves.

Yup, the article in Stanford Magazine about the renaming says the letters are temporary:

https://stanfordmag.org/contents/all-together-now-dorm-reboot

Administrators say those one-letter appellations are just placeholders until students come up with more meaningful names. (Thank goodness, says one returning student. “No one wants to have, like, ‘A pride,’ or ‘T pride.’ It’s just weird.”) Also on students’ to-do lists: creating neighborhood mascots, crests and theme dorms (which can change annually, in contrast to the more formal university theme houses).