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Calif. restrictions Dec. 3 - M T - 12-03-2020

I'll update as the order appears.  Basically 5 regions will have to close for at least 3 weeks if ICU capacity falls to under 15% in their region.
None are there yet, but maybe 4 of 5 will hit it soon, possibly next day or two. The Bay Area is expected to hit it mid to late December.

"It prohibits private gatherings of any size, closes sector operations except for critical infrastructure and retail, and requires 100% masking and physical distancing in all others."

The State's info on this order.

5 regions:
Quote:In any region that triggers a Regional Stay Home Order because it drops below 15% ICU capacity, the following sectors must close:

    Indoor and outdoor playgrounds
    Indoor recreational facilities
    Hair salons and barbershops
    Personal care services
    Museums, zoos, and aquariums
    Movie theaters
    Wineries
    Bars, breweries, and distilleries
    Family entertainment centers
    Cardrooms and satellite wagering
    Limited services
    Live audience sports
    Amusement parks

The following sectors will have additional modifications in addition to 100% masking and physical distancing:

    Outdoor recreational facilities: Allow outdoor operation only without any food, drink or alcohol sales. Additionally, overnight stays at campgrounds will not be permitted.
    Retail: Allow indoor operation at 20% capacity with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.
    Shopping centers: Allow indoor operation at 20% capacity with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.
    Hotels and lodging: Allow to open for critical infrastructure support only.
    Restaurants: Allow only for take-out, pick-up, or delivery.
    Offices: Allow remote only except for critical infrastructure sectors where remote working is not possible.
    Places of worship and political expression: Allow outdoor services only.
    Entertainment production including professional sports: Allow operation without live audiences. Additionally, testing protocol and “bubbles” are highly encouraged.

The following sectors are allowed to remain open when a remote option is not possible with appropriate infectious disease preventative measures including 100% masking and physical distancing:

    Critical infrastructure
    Schools that are already open for in-person learning
    Non-urgent medical and dental care
    Child care and pre-K


RE: Calif. restrictions Dec. 3 - OutsiderFan - 12-03-2020

OK, I walk to a local park and do pull-ups and chin-ups, wearing a mask.  Does the order mean that if we hit the 15% threshold to shutter stuff, that I won't be able to use the bar at the park, because the ground will be closed?

RE: Calif. restrictions Dec. 3 - 82 Card - 12-03-2020

(12-03-2020, 04:11 PM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  OK, I walk to a local park and do pull-ups and chin-ups, wearing a mask.  Does the order mean that if we hit the 15% threshold to shutter stuff, that I won't be able to use the bar at the park, because the ground will be closed?

I doubt it, unless it's part of a "playground."

RE: Calif. restrictions Dec. 3 - chrisk - 12-03-2020

(12-03-2020, 03:09 PM)M T Wrote:  I'll update as the order appears.  Basically 5 regions will have to close for at least 3 weeks if ICU capacity falls to under 15% in their region.
None are there yet, but maybe 4 of 5 will hit it soon, possibly next day or two.  The Bay Area is expected to hit it mid to late December.

"It prohibits private gatherings of any size, closes sector operations except for critical infrastructure and retail, and requires 100% masking and physical distancing in all others."

The State's info on this order.

5 regions:
  • Northern California: Del Norte, Glenn, Humboldt, Lake, Lassen, Mendocino, Modoc, Shasta, Siskiyou, Tehama, Trinity
  • Bay Area: Alameda, Contra Costa, Marin, Monterey, Napa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Solano, Sonoma
  • Greater Sacramento: Alpine, Amador, Butte, Colusa, El Dorado, Nevada, Placer, Plumas, Sacramento, Sierra, Sutter, Yolo, Yuba
  • San Joaquin Valley: Calaveras, Fresno, Kern, Kings, Madera, Mariposa, Merced, San Benito, San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Tulare, Tuolumne
  • Southern California: Imperial, Inyo, Los Angeles, Mono, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Ventura
Quote:In any region that triggers a Regional Stay Home Order because it drops below 15% ICU capacity, the following sectors must close:

    Indoor and outdoor playgrounds
    Indoor recreational facilities
    Hair salons and barbershops
    Personal care services
    Museums, zoos, and aquariums
    Movie theaters
    Wineries
    Bars, breweries, and distilleries
    Family entertainment centers
    Cardrooms and satellite wagering
    Limited services
    Live audience sports
    Amusement parks

The following sectors will have additional modifications in addition to 100% masking and physical distancing:

    Outdoor recreational facilities: Allow outdoor operation only without any food, drink or alcohol sales. Additionally, overnight stays at campgrounds will not be permitted.
    Retail: Allow indoor operation at 20% capacity with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.
    Shopping centers: Allow indoor operation at 20% capacity with entrance metering and no eating or drinking in the stores. Additionally, special hours should be instituted for seniors and others with chronic conditions or compromised immune systems.
    Hotels and lodging: Allow to open for critical infrastructure support only.
    Restaurants: Allow only for take-out, pick-up, or delivery.
    Offices: Allow remote only except for critical infrastructure sectors where remote working is not possible.
    Places of worship and political expression: Allow outdoor services only.
    Entertainment production including professional sports: Allow operation without live audiences. Additionally, testing protocol and “bubbles” are highly encouraged.

The following sectors are allowed to remain open when a remote option is not possible with appropriate infectious disease preventative measures including 100% masking and physical distancing:

    Critical infrastructure
    Schools that are already open for in-person learning
    Non-urgent medical and dental care
    Child care and pre-K

That seems to be pretty close to what we did in March/April.

RE: Calif. restrictions Dec. 3 - M T - 12-03-2020

OF, if that is shared equipment, I'd say it is prohibited just as a child's slide at the same park.

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These restrictions are based on ICU usage.  That is a trailing indicator of infections.  As I recall, the stuff that puts you in the ICU is about 7-10 days after the first symptoms, which are 7 days after infections.  

So, you've got two weeks of infections already in the pipeline, plus 2 days to institute the shutdown. 

I like BC's suggestion of basing restrictions on R (about 8 days into an infection), except that too many people probably will say "Why?  My hospital isn't crowded yet."