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Home cooking - lex24 - 11-12-2017

I don’t have historical figures on this. But it has seemed to me that road teams in the Pac 12 this year have fared particularly poorly. Leave out OSU as they are simply bad. The overall home vs road records this year for the remaining 11:  home 49-13. Road 19-29. Now that is a little skewed as many teams play at least two and some times three patsies at home. But you get the point.

Here are some of the particulars:

Stan 4-0. 2-2. Rice neutral
WSU. 7-0. 2-2
Wash. 5-0. 3-2
Berkeley 4-2 1-3
Ore. 4-1. 1-4
Sc.  6-0. 3-2
Ariz. 4-2. 3-1
ASU. 4-2. 1-3
UCLA. 5-0. 0-5
Utah 3-3. 1-3
Colorado. 3-3. 1-3

If you look at the road wins, there is not a significant one in the bunch. I think Utah may have been  ranked when Stanford beat them. But that was a function of taking gimmies.

I have to wonder if one of the factors in this is the crazy scheduling. Washington bitched a bit about a road game on a short week. But you know what - it is a bit of a disadvantage. Then all the late night games etc.

Or maybe parity is such that the home field tilts the contest just enough.

In any event. I sure hope the trend continues. Although rivalry games probably lessen home field a bit. And both Berkeley and WSU had or have byes the week before


Home cooking - lex24 - 11-12-2017

I don’t have historical figures on this. But it has seemed to me that road teams in the Pac 12 this year have fared particularly poorly. Leave out OSU as they are simply bad. The overall home vs road records this year for the remaining 11:  home 49-13. Road 19-29. Now that is a little skewed as many teams play at least two and some times three patsies at home. But you get the point.

Here are some of the particulars:

Stan 4-0. 2-2. Rice neutral
WSU. 7-0. 2-2
Wash. 5-0. 3-2
Berkeley 4-2 1-3
Ore. 4-1. 1-4
Sc.  6-0. 3-2
Ariz. 4-2. 3-1
ASU. 4-2. 1-3
UCLA. 5-0. 0-5
Utah 3-3. 1-3
Colorado. 3-3. 1-3

If you look at the road wins, there is not a significant one in the bunch. I think Utah may have been  ranked when Stanford beat them. But that was a function of taking gimmies.

I have to wonder if one of the factors in this is the crazy scheduling. Washington bitched a bit about a road game on a short week. But you know what - it is a bit of a disadvantage. Then all the late night games etc.

Or maybe parity is such that the home field tilts the contest just enough.

In any event. I sure hope the trend continues. Although rivalry games probably lessen home field a bit. And both Berkeley and WSU had or have byes the week before


Re: Home cooking - stupac2 - 11-12-2017

Holy crap UCLA! 5-0 at home, 0-5 on the road??? That's either some spectacularly unlucky scheduling or a sign of bad coaching. Even our "bad" road split is only 2-3...


Re: Home cooking - stupac2 - 11-12-2017

Holy crap UCLA! 5-0 at home, 0-5 on the road??? That's either some spectacularly unlucky scheduling or a sign of bad coaching. Even our "bad" road split is only 2-3...


Re: Home cooking - 82lsju - 11-12-2017

(11-12-2017, 10:54 AM)lex24 link Wrote:Stan 4-0. 2-2. Rice neutral

we are 2-3 on the road (W @OSU and Utah, L @USC, SDSU, and WSU)


Re: Home cooking - 82lsju - 11-12-2017

(11-12-2017, 10:54 AM)lex24 link Wrote:Stan 4-0. 2-2. Rice neutral

we are 2-3 on the road (W @OSU and Utah, L @USC, SDSU, and WSU)


Re: Home cooking - lex24 - 11-12-2017

Of course.


(11-12-2017, 11:09 AM)eric link Wrote:[quote author=lex24 link=topic=17993.msg212327#msg212327 date=1510509241]

Stan 4-0. 2-2. Rice neutral

we are 2-3 on the road (W @OSU and Utah, L @U$C, SDSU, and WSU)
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Re: Home cooking - lex24 - 11-12-2017

Of course.


(11-12-2017, 11:09 AM)eric link Wrote:[quote author=lex24 link=topic=17993.msg212327#msg212327 date=1510509241]

Stan 4-0. 2-2. Rice neutral

we are 2-3 on the road (W @OSU and Utah, L @U$C, SDSU, and WSU)
[/quote]


Re: Home cooking - 2006alum - 11-12-2017

One thing worth noting: this is not limited to the Pac-12. Just yesterday, TCU got crushed at Oklahoma. Georgia crushed at Auburn. UND crushed at Miami. MSU crushed at OSU. Heck, even Alabama barely eked out a last-second win against Mississippi State. So this phenomenon is definitely not limited to the Pac-12.

What's scary for us is that this season is our season of "easy" away games. Next year our rotation brings us to Washington, to Oregon, to UCLA, and to UND. Oregon and UCLA aren't what they were a few seasons ago, but that lineup is in theory a much worse one for us than our home and away split this year.


Re: Home cooking - 2006alum - 11-12-2017

One thing worth noting: this is not limited to the Pac-12. Just yesterday, TCU got crushed at Oklahoma. Georgia crushed at Auburn. UND crushed at Miami. MSU crushed at OSU. Heck, even Alabama barely eked out a last-second win against Mississippi State. So this phenomenon is definitely not limited to the Pac-12.

What's scary for us is that this season is our season of "easy" away games. Next year our rotation brings us to Washington, to Oregon, to UCLA, and to UND. Oregon and UCLA aren't what they were a few seasons ago, but that lineup is in theory a much worse one for us than our home and away split this year.