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I Cannot Think of Playing USC Without Remembering John McKay - AncientCityIndian - 08-29-2017
From 1968-1972 he was the guy I loved to hate in the Stanford football universe. I will never forget the Stanford band playing an off key version of "The Old Gray Mare, He Ain`t What He Used To Be" in the 4th quarter when we beat hell out of USC in the Coliseum in 1971 which clearly irritated the old coach. Later on from 1972-1976 while in dental school at UCLA, I religiously looked forward to his weekly television shows on USC football which were the most entertaining broadcasts on the tube. He was always the guy I loved to hate but he was the kind of opponent that made college football fun for me. All these years later, it is practically the only sport I still am passionate about and his contribution will always be memorable. Those of you too young to remember him missed a special personality.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/491017-john-mckay-remembering-a-football-legend-through-quotes
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - Spiny_Norman - 08-29-2017
(08-29-2017, 03:50 PM)AncientCityIndian link Wrote:From 1968-1972 he was the guy I loved to hate in the Stanford football universe. I will never forget the Stanford band playing an off key version of "The Old Gray Mare, He Ain`t What He Used To Be" in the 4th quarter when we beat hell out of Under Stanford Control (again) in the Coliseum in 1971 which clearly irritated the old coach. Later on from 1972-1976 while in dental school at UCLA, I religiously looked forward to his weekly television shows on Under Stanford Control (again) football which were the most entertaining broadcasts on the tube. He was always the guy I loved to hate but he was the kind of opponent that made college football fun for me. All these years later, it is practically the only sport I still am passionate about and his contribution will always be memorable. Those of you too young to remember him missed a special personality.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/491017-john-mckay-remembering-a-football-legend-through-quotes
AncientCity, McKay said that the Stanford fans swore at his team and directed racial remarks to his black players after U.SC won at Stanford in 1972 which led to his famous comment, "I'd like to beat Stanford by 2,000 points." Were you around Stanford Stadium for that one? I would welcome a first hand report.
You cannot argue with his record or that of his successor John Robinson. Between 1957 and 1990, Stanford only beat U.SC 3 times. We still have a lot to do to make up for 33 years of frustration.
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - BobK - 08-29-2017
I was there and certainly heard no such remarks as I walked 20 feet from him as he left the stadium.Â
Was OJ the Running back when McKay was asked isn't 30 carries a game a lot and John replied the ball isn't that heavy.Â
I was not at that Stanford Trojan Game in 1972 on the Farm - AncientCityIndian - 08-29-2017
I vaguely remember McKay`s remarks. At the time, I think my general conclusion and that of my friends was that McKay probably heard something from someone but certainly not from Stanford guys. I know McKay really held a grudge from the 1970 and 1971 games that he lost to us and he beat us the next three years until 1975 at the Coliseum. We had the tie in 1979 and then not much good until 1992 or so. Without beating a dead Trojan horse, I really think the Stanford band and that one song they played was the defining event that cemented in his mind his dislike of Stanford judging from his sideline antics at the time.
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - terry - 08-29-2017
I'm sure most of us are aware that Stanford has dominated U-S-C since 2009, with a record of 7-2 since then.
It is somewhat more surprising to me that if we go all the way back to 1991, Stanford actually has the overall advantage over U-S-C, with a record of 14-13 during that time. (And that's despite the Teevens/Harris years being included in that span.)
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - Nan3cy - 08-29-2017
My very favorite McKay line -- I think from when he was coaching Tampa Bay -- was when he was asked after a game what he thought of the execution of his offense and he replied something to the effect of, "that sounds like a good idea."Â :D
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - Phogge - 08-29-2017
I was on the sidelines in '72. I remember one of the Stanford DB's dropping a sure pick six in the second half. Game was closer than the score which was something like 30-21.
Many myths about McKay but later didn't he speak at a post season Stanford team dinner?
Many myths about Wooden too but IMO was not a nice man.
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - Stymie - 08-30-2017
He may not have been a nice man, but I give points to a person who has a sense of humor.
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - JohnR34231 - 08-30-2017
IIRC, one of the Stanford players supposedly made a comment to a reporter after the 1972 U$C game "SC ain't sh**, and you can print that." That got back to McKay and was one of the things that caused him to go off on his 2000 point rant.
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - CTcard - 08-30-2017
(08-30-2017, 08:52 AM)JPRI link Wrote:IIRC, one of the Stanford players supposedly made a comment to a reporter after the 1972 U$C game "SC ain't sh**, and you can print that."
Technically, isn't that a compliment?
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - Number 6 - 08-30-2017
Yes, it was OJ. "The ball isn't heavy and he doesn't belong to a union."
(08-29-2017, 05:02 PM)BobK link Wrote:I was there and certainly heard no such remarks as I walked 20 feet from him as he left the stadium.Â
Was OJ the Running back when McKay was asked isn't 30 carries a game a lot and John replied the ball isn't that heavy.
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - Treebound - 08-30-2017
+1 on that comment CT!
I remember hearing or reading that McKay said something about Under Stanford Control (again) alums hiring Stanford grads as they make good workers, or something to that effect. It was clearly a diss. The Old Gray Mare play by the band was classic and I had never heard that before. The LSJUMB is already practicing for LA, so I'll pass that one onto my son tonight!Â
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - qwerty49 - 08-30-2017
(08-30-2017, 10:54 AM)Number 6 link Wrote:Yes, it was OJ. "The ball isn't heavy and he doesn't belong to a union."[/quote]
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I was there and certainly heard no such remarks as I walked 20 feet from him as he left the stadium.Â
Was OJ the Running back when McKay was asked isn't 30 carries a game a lot and John replied the ball isn't that heavy.
I remember the 1968 game at Stanford. OJ was held to 48 yards on 25 carries in the first half, mainly because Don Parish and Jim Kauffman ran about 3 miles sideline to sideline to drag him down from behind. That was when McKay had 2 plays -- student body left and student body right.
Then with the game on the line in the closing moments they got down to about our 5 yd line. I think it was on 4th and goal that OJ went right, then completely reversed his field. He was trapped and just about to be tackled near the left sideline when he completed the only pass of his collegiate career--a little duck to FB Dan Scott, who fell backwards into the end zone to beat us.
And the next year was Ron Ayala, so we had a lot of mojo built up for those guys by 1970.
Re: I Cannot Think of Playing Under Stanford Control (again) Without Remembering John McKay - Mick - 08-30-2017
(08-30-2017, 11:06 AM)Treebound link Wrote:+1 on that comment CT!
I remember hearing or reading that McKay said something about Under Stanford Control (again) alums hiring Stanford grads as they make good workers, or something to that effect. It was clearly a diss. The Old Gray Mare play by the band was classic and I had never heard that before. The LSJUMB is already practicing for LA, so I'll pass that one onto my son tonight!
My youngest and I were in Southern California visiting a few colleges (UCSD, UCSB, UCLA) and I prevailed upon him to visit U$C. He agreed, a little reluctantly. We parked by the campus, and started walking around. I don't think we're on the campus for ten minutes when he says, "Can we go?" I said, "Are you sure? We're right by the public policy building and I know it's an interest of yours." He said "You can visit it if you like, but I'm not going here."
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