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news from a fellow PAC-12 member - Robbie - 04-14-2011

bye bye journalism school in Boulder

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_17845940


news from a fellow PAC-12 member - Robbie - 04-14-2011

bye bye journalism school in Boulder

http://www.dailycamera.com/news/ci_17845940


In a world where we all blog and tweet - Redrum - 04-14-2011

why do we need trained journalists?   Just read 5,000 random opinions a day and the truth will just, sort of...emerge.

On the other hand,  lots of good journalists don\'t have a j-school degree, so maybe the earth won\'t stop spinning on its axis.


In a world where we all blog and tweet - Redrum - 04-14-2011

why do we need trained journalists?   Just read 5,000 random opinions a day and the truth will just, sort of...emerge.

On the other hand,  lots of good journalists don\'t have a j-school degree, so maybe the earth won\'t stop spinning on its axis.


A slightly more elevated viewpoint - Redrum - 04-15-2011

As they say in the Phillipines,  sweatshops aside...

There is a powerful argument that those who want to go into journalism-- whatever that career will look like--  would best be served by getting economics, accounting or science educations.  Any field that is resistant to layman\'s analysis or is opaque to non practitioners.   The explosion of business reporting in the last two decades would be Exhibit A.   The best business journalists are former practitioners or trained in the basics.

The other field is local political/governance reporting,  where internships or simply being a maven who shows up and follows up can pry open  secretive and quirky worlds.   True, it would be best to be paid while acquiring the needed knowledge and skills,  but if one is determined one can get there.

Finally,  as usual garvin has written it concisely and true:  what was great about being a reporter was exactly that: "the ability to sate your curiosity about how and why the world works"   .  Amen brother.   The time I spent as a reporter just out of Stanford was some of the most fun I ever had.   That, and being able to write something every day,  some of which was artful expression that made me feel good about being a literate person.    Everybody just forgets that fun part.   By contrast, the world of blogging just seems more like a frantic, constant adrenalin jag.   Brave new world...contained on an Android or IPhone.


A slightly more elevated viewpoint - Redrum - 04-15-2011

As they say in the Phillipines,  sweatshops aside...

There is a powerful argument that those who want to go into journalism-- whatever that career will look like--  would best be served by getting economics, accounting or science educations.  Any field that is resistant to layman\'s analysis or is opaque to non practitioners.   The explosion of business reporting in the last two decades would be Exhibit A.   The best business journalists are former practitioners or trained in the basics.

The other field is local political/governance reporting,  where internships or simply being a maven who shows up and follows up can pry open  secretive and quirky worlds.   True, it would be best to be paid while acquiring the needed knowledge and skills,  but if one is determined one can get there.

Finally,  as usual garvin has written it concisely and true:  what was great about being a reporter was exactly that: "the ability to sate your curiosity about how and why the world works"   .  Amen brother.   The time I spent as a reporter just out of Stanford was some of the most fun I ever had.   That, and being able to write something every day,  some of which was artful expression that made me feel good about being a literate person.    Everybody just forgets that fun part.   By contrast, the world of blogging just seems more like a frantic, constant adrenalin jag.   Brave new world...contained on an Android or IPhone.


Re: news from a fellow PAC-12 member - Robbie - 04-15-2011

The flip side: http://on.wsj.com/fwHqA6

I admit, that is how I draw my paycheck. It may not be a great place to get in-depth information, but people want information now, and are willing to pay for it. And we, as an industry, are willing to provide it.


Re: news from a fellow PAC-12 member - Robbie - 04-15-2011

The flip side: http://on.wsj.com/fwHqA6

I admit, that is how I draw my paycheck. It may not be a great place to get in-depth information, but people want information now, and are willing to pay for it. And we, as an industry, are willing to provide it.


Re: news from a fellow PAC-12 member - yvonne - 04-15-2011

Perhaps, this would be a good chance for me to interject. As Garvin says, journalism is, in fact, a dying industry. Even the much more lucrative tech sector is drying up as companies send information directly to their customers via the web and social networking, and customers seek more objective information via similar technologies.

I spent more than 15 years covering technology as a writer and editor in specialized publications. Would anybody be willing to talk offline about possible career directions for someone who:
Thanks,
y


Re: news from a fellow PAC-12 member - yvonne - 04-15-2011

Perhaps, this would be a good chance for me to interject. As Garvin says, journalism is, in fact, a dying industry. Even the much more lucrative tech sector is drying up as companies send information directly to their customers via the web and social networking, and customers seek more objective information via similar technologies.

I spent more than 15 years covering technology as a writer and editor in specialized publications. Would anybody be willing to talk offline about possible career directions for someone who:
Thanks,
y


a survey quoted in the WSJ - yvonne - 04-15-2011

(it was funded by a former subsidiary)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704723104576062173458318658.html


a survey quoted in the WSJ - yvonne - 04-15-2011

(it was funded by a former subsidiary)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704723104576062173458318658.html