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Is this true? - CowboyIndian - 02-02-2017

I was reading the comments in an article about a Jim Mora/ESPN blowup in which one person quoted Mora as saying that only 3 schools in the country required football players to gain admission before they could sign an LOI: SMU, Stanford and UCLA.

True?

http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_bruin_football/2017/2/1/14475632/national-signing-day-2017-ucla-football-coach-jim-mora-gets-combative-during-espn-interview


Re: Is this true? - wallendar - 02-02-2017

Mora is not telling the truth.  The UC's do not require a player to gain admission before they sign an LOI.  UC Berkeley has had players sign LOI's and subsequently receive a rejection notice.  Most recently, it happened in December when a JC player signed with UCB and was dropped later when his Fall grades were made available.  He ended up signing with K State yesterday.


Re: Is this true? - CTcard - 02-02-2017

(02-02-2017, 07:51 PM)wallendar link Wrote:Mora is not telling the truth.  The UC's do not require a player to gain admission before they sign an LOI.  UC Berkeley has had players sign LOI's and subsequently receive a rejection notice.  Most recently, it happened in December when a JC player signed with UCB and was dropped later when his Fall grades were made available.  He ended up signing with K State yesterday.

Nothing you just wrote indicates that any of UCLA, SMU, or Stanford do not require a student to be admitted before signing a LOI.
Presumably you are implying that all UCs follow the same rules. I don't think that is necessarily true on issues such as this - but I don't have any direct knowledge of UCLA's procedures.

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But in the actual clip, Mora indeed did not tell the truth. Rosen played six games last year, not five.


Re: Is this true? - French Rage - 02-02-2017

I like that we're the gold standard against which Mora compares his program.  8)


Re: Is this true? - socalstanfan1 - 02-02-2017

I don't know what UCLA's policies are, specifically.  However, each UC campus makes their own admissions decisions independently.  So it is certainly possible that while UCB allows students to sign before being admitted, UCLA may not.  However, it is also true that UCLA has not yet sent out its admission notifications.  But perhaps athletes have a way of being evaluated before non-athletes. 


Re: Is this true? - shade - 02-03-2017

Not true for SMU.  Well, not true as of 25 years ago...


Re: Is this true? - Papa John - 02-03-2017

It's also important to remember that, in the UC system at least, all admissions are provisional. So you can be admitted in March, but if your senior-year spring semester grades aren't up to snuff, you can lose your place:

http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/how-to-apply/after-you-apply/admission-decisions/

It's entirely possible that a player is admitted to Cal or UCLA, signs an LOI, but is then dropped due to poor academic performance in the student-athlete's final semester.


Re: Is this true? - Mick - 02-03-2017

(02-03-2017, 10:38 AM)Papa John link Wrote:It's also important to remember that, in the UC system at least, all admissions are provisional. So you can be admitted in March, but if your senior-year spring semester grades aren't up to snuff, you can lose your place:

http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/how-to-apply/after-you-apply/admission-decisions/

It's entirely possible that a player is admitted to ןɐɔ or UCLA, signs an LOI, but is then dropped due to poor academic performance in the student-athlete's final semester.


Boy, talk about hypotheticals.