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What's happening? - Row80Critic - 10-09-2016

I don't get it?  Stanford's a little dinged up, and the WA teams are probably better than expected, but it seems like there is something else going on?  They just look suddenly and profoundly lost and lifeless at every aspect of the game...  What happened to the team that beat KSU, USC and UCLA -- this looks like just an entirely different team -- weird....

Re: What's happening? - 2006alum - 10-09-2016

The superstitious and HIGHLY unscientific part of me worries that the Cardboard went to a new layout the week before our Washington loss.

Alternatively, this fall is 2006's 10-year reunion in two weekends and we'll all be back on campus to attend the Colorado homecoming game. Our graduation year was the first year to lose all four big games since the 50's and the only year not to do the wacky walk on the Stanford football stadium due to construction, so it feels like we're a cursed class when it comes to Stanford football and we may be bringing our demons back with us...

I now invite people with actual, substantive knowledge to weigh in.  :D

Re: What's happening? - dabigv13 - 10-09-2016

Lets not forget that to add insult to injury, our commencement speaker was Tom Brokaw, who was there to tell us how our parents were the better generation ::)

Re: What's happening? - 2006alum - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 12:25 PM)dabigv link Wrote:Lets not forget that to add insult to injury, our commencement speaker was Tom Brokaw, who was there to tell us how our parents were the better generation ::)
Oy. Yes. and 2008 got Oprah. At least he had a great sense of humor about our lukewarm welcome; I specifically remember him calling out a classmate who had written a Daily letter to the editor criticizing the class presidents' choice of him. He took it in good humor and it was pretty funny. No Steve Jobs "stay hungry" moment, but it could have been worse...

Re: What's happening? - yvonne - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 12:09 PM)2006alum link Wrote:The superstitious and HIGHLY unscientific part of me worries that the Cardboard went to a new layout the week before our Washington loss.

This did not escape my notice.

Re: What's happening? - JohnR34231 - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 11:52 AM)Row80Critic link Wrote:I don't get it?  Stanford's a little dinged up, and the WA teams are probably better than expected, but it seems like there is something else going on?  They just look suddenly and profoundly lost and lifeless at every aspect of the game...  What happened to the team that beat KSU, Under Stanford Control (again) and UCLA -- this looks like just an entirely different team -- weird....

It's in the Stanford DNA.

Anyone remember 1997? We were supposed to contend for conference honors since we returned a bunch of guys who beat Nick Saban's Michigan State team 38-0 in the Sun Bowl. We started the season 4-1 including a beatdown of USB. We proceeded to lose the next five games to finish 5-6 on the year.

Re: What's happening? - needle - 10-09-2016

I remember 1997 very well, and this does have a bit of a feel like that year.

But, I think the defense has just faced two very good offenses and hopefully will be getting back its top two corners sometime soon.

I think Stanford will rebound this year but no one can be optimistic about the offense at this point. It's clear to me that neither Chryst nor Burns, though they may have good wheels, have Hogan's ability as a runner.

If there's one thing that hasn't been discussed as much as it should, I would say that evidently the QB run game was a very underrated part of the Stanford offense these past few years.

Re: What's happening? - French Rage - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 12:25 PM)dabigv link Wrote:Lets not forget that to add insult to injury, our commencement speaker was Tom Brokaw, who was there to tell us how our parents were the better generation ::)

The undergrads got Brokaw.  We grad students got some other guy whose name I honestly do not remember, Gregorian or Vergorian or something like that.  And I never even knew the wacky walk existed until I attended a friend's PhD graduation in 2009, since no one tells the grad students about these things.  I thought that the class of 2009 just had a bunch of nutsos until I understood it was actually the usual tradition.

Re: What's happening? - CowboyIndian - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 12:25 PM)dabigv link Wrote:Lets not forget that to add insult to injury, our commencement speaker was Tom Brokaw, who was there to tell us how our parents were the better generation ::)

I think he was referring to your grandparents.

Re: What's happening? - CowboyIndian - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 02:53 PM)French Rage link Wrote:Gregorian or Vergorian or something like that. 

Kevorkian?

Re: What's happening? - GoodGrief - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 01:10 PM)Yvonne link Wrote:[quote author=2006alum link=topic=15880.msg175276#msg175276 date=1476040197]
The superstitious and HIGHLY unscientific part of me worries that the Cardboard went to a new layout the week before our Washington loss.

This did not escape my notice.
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I am sorry for updating my avatar just before the Washington game to one that included Snoopy, who clearly is a harbinger of evil things. I have changed my avatar back to good ol' solo wishy washy Charlie Brown.

Re: What's happening? - washingtonismoney - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 11:52 AM)Row80Critic link Wrote:I don't get it?  Stanford's a little dinged up...

Well, I think some other bad stuff is in play, but let's not underestimate here. I've been cataloguing games since 2013 and Stanford has not in a single game, during that time period, been as injured as it is now.

Re: What's happening? - Snorlax94 - 10-09-2016

Instead of looking it up and offering facts, my recollection is that one year Stanford's commencement speaker was someone named Vartan Gregorian.

Re: What's happening? - French Rage - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 06:10 PM)Snorlax94 link Wrote:Instead of looking it up and offering facts, my recollection is that one year Stanford's commencement speaker was someone named Vartan Gregorian.

That's the guy! 

Re: What's happening? - Phogge - 10-09-2016

Gregorian was a great history prof, perhaps the best ever, at SF State. He got pissed at the '67 BSU strike and wound up as the head of the NYC public library and as a Hall of Fame socialite in Manhattan.

Re: What's happening? - BostonCard - 10-09-2016

(10-09-2016, 09:31 PM)Phogge link Wrote:Gregorian was a great history prof, perhaps the best ever, at SF State. He got pissed at the '67 BSU strike and wound up as the head of the NYC public library and as a Hall of Fame socialite in Manhattan.

Gregorian was also a student of my wife's late grandfather, Wayne Vucinich.  After the NY public library he beceame the President of Brown.

BC

Re: What's happening? - TreesAndBirds - 10-10-2016

He was a dean at Penn when I was there, and well respected.

Re: What's happening? - stupac2 - 10-10-2016

(10-09-2016, 04:51 PM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:[quote author=Row80Critic link=topic=15880.msg175275#msg175275 date=1476039177]
I don't get it?  Stanford's a little dinged up...

Well, I think some other bad stuff is in play, but let's not underestimate here. I've been cataloguing games since 2013 and Stanford has not in a single game, during that time period, been as injured as it is now.
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I think people aren't giving this the proper amount of credit. We're not OSU, we can't and don't have a deep stable of 5-stars to come in. We have good talent, but it needs a couple years to be really coached up. How many of our guys seem to do nothing for their first couple of years then get end-year awards in the last two?

Combine that with a lot of turnover from last year (IIRC our returning starts number was one of the lowest in the country) and we've just got a brobdingnagian talent dropoff. The plus side is that guys should be better next year.

This doesn't, however, really excuse our offense being completely inept. I'd love to know how we went from 100+ yards before contact against USC to ~50 total in the last couple games. Something had to have happened, I don't think USC's front seven is just a joke.

Re: What's happening? - BostonCard - 10-10-2016

(10-10-2016, 12:26 AM)TreesAndBirds link Wrote:He was a dean at Penn when I was there, and well respected.

Indeed, he became Provost, and was on the shortlist to be the next President.  There are some ugly rumors as to why he was passed over, despite being quite beloved at Penn.

BC