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In defense of the $20 bill. - Rally - 04-22-2016

  Does this count as oral history?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VL7XS_8qgXM

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - washingtonismoney - 04-22-2016

Andrew Jackson sucked.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - BostonCard - 04-22-2016

The war was already over.

And I'm with WIM; Andrew Jackson was a racist, a slave owner and trader, and a viciously genocidal, a-hole of a President who ignored the rule of law, refusing to enforce Worcester v. Georgia.  Even applying the cultural mores of the time, Jackson was a brute.  He may have been a great colonel, but that doesn't merit his face on the $20 bill.  I'd much rather Hamilton on the $10 than Jackson on the $20.

BC

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - Leftcoast - 04-23-2016

I'm curious about the Tubman choice so I posted a poll to see how folks around here feel. 

I hope this isn't inflammatory.  I'd like to see respectful comments and trust this group to be more mature and thoughtful than most.  Please realize this topic could be divisive so take a deep breath and read your comments twice before hitting "Post".  I hope I don't regret this...

I voted "Neutral".  I'd have gone with MLK as a more likely inclusive choice.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - 2006alum - 04-23-2016

(04-22-2016, 09:11 PM)Boston Card link Wrote:The war was already over.

And I'm with WIM; Andrew Jackson was a racist, a slave owner and trader, and a viciously genocidal, a-hole of a President who ignored the rule of law, refusing to enforce Worcester v. Georgia.  Even applying the cultural mores of the time, Jackson was a brute.  He may have been a great colonel, but that doesn't merit his face on the $20 bill.  I'd much rather Hamilton on the $10 than Jackson on the $20.

BC

+1.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - DC - 04-23-2016

With respect to ferrarri, who was merely trying to introduce a potentially interesting topic, politics unfortunately can be intertwined with this $20 bill.  I would prefer not to have politics on a Stanford sports forum and suggest we instead post on other threads on things like our still-thin DL.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - martyup - 04-23-2016

I would vote to leave our currency alone.  It should not be subject to the whims of political correctness.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - jacketree - 04-23-2016

MLK wasn't a woman, which was the point. Tubman is a great choice, even if I was pulling for Billie Holiday. Historically Andrew Jackson was a rat bastard who didn't even believe in Reserve Notes. Good riddance. Rachel Maddow had an interesting piece on how often the $20 bill used to change. Of course it's political.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - terry - 04-23-2016

(04-23-2016, 09:41 AM)martyup link Wrote:I would vote to leave our currency alone.  It should not be subject to the whims of political correctness.

It seems to me that the currency already was "subject to whims of political correctness" when Jackson was chosen for the $20 bill back in 1928.

Previous $20 notes bore the portraits of Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, Daniel Manning, James Garfield, John Marshall, Stephen Decatur, Grover Cleveland, and Hugh McCullough. Those choices were politically influenced too. Those political choices eventually gave way to the choices of later times.

Why should the choice of Jackson be frozen in time, forever enshrining the political correctness of 1928?


Hugh McCullough, Secretary of the Treasury


Daniel Manning, Secretary of the Treasury


Stephen Decatur, naval commander


Grover Cleveland


John Marshall


James Garfield


George Washington


Alexander Hamilton

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Jackson not the est - FrankO - 04-23-2016

all above invariably true... and like it or not, his views shared by many/most at that time,
he claimed to represent the 'common man' as opposed to the elite

Tubman a fine choice... I also liked the idea of Sacajawea

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - yvonne - 04-23-2016

Nice find, Terry. I noticed some silver certificates in there. I remember deep in the recesses of my mind, that my Girl Scout leader showed us a silver certificate and told us there was a difference between those and dollar bills. I've since forgotten. Does anyone know?

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - martyup - 04-23-2016

If we're going to change the $20 bill, I vote for Ronald Reagan.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - Mick - 04-23-2016

(04-23-2016, 09:41 AM)martyup link Wrote:I would vote to leave our currency alone.  It should not be subject to the whims of political correctness.

Everything -- and I mean EVERYTHING -- is subject to the whims of political correctness.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - CornFed - 04-23-2016

(04-23-2016, 11:39 AM)garvin link Wrote:They were, once upon a time, redeemable from the government for actual silver. That hasn't been true in decades -- I believe it was Lyndon Johnson's government that changed it.

Wasn't it under Nixon?

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - Leftcoast - 04-23-2016

Has either Roosevelt president made it onto any currency?  They'd be my choice based upon merit and societal impact other than the obvious disqualifiers.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - CornFed - 04-23-2016

(04-23-2016, 03:23 PM)garvin link Wrote:Wikipedia, which has never been known to be wrong, says it was 1968, which would be the tail end of the Johnson presidency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_certificate_(United_States)

Nixon took the United States off the gold standard, so maybe you're thinking of that.

You're absolutely right.  The silver certificate allowed a person to buy a set amount of silver (right?  Hence, the name?) in exchange for said certificate.  Nixon set chaos in motion w/ Bretton Woods, I think, which allowed currencies to float.  Ultimately, that required the price of gold to float.  So, yes, I was thinking of Nixon.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - terry - 04-23-2016

(04-23-2016, 12:57 PM)ferrari link Wrote:Since neither Roosevelt, Eisenhower nor Kennedy have yet made the gipper will just have to wait in line.  With the exception of Garfield it seems the time between death and printing is quite long.

Franklin Roosevelt is on the dime, Kennedy is on the fifty cent piece, and Eisenhower was on the dollar coin.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - 82lsju - 04-23-2016

little did I know but the $1 coin has had special issues since 2007 with a different President on each one.

The Presidential $1 Coins

The United States is honoring our Nation's Presidents by issuing $1 coins featuring their images in the order they served in office. Three Presidential $1 Coins will be issued in 2016, the final year of the program.

Due this year

- Nixon
- Ford
- Reagan

https://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/?action=schedule

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - FarmBoy - 04-23-2016

I just find it weird the treasury actively cultivates a collectibles market. I like that they'll change the face on a bill every few years, but all these different coins that are never used for practical purposes seems like a non vital government function that should be shuttered.

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Re: In defense of the $20 bill. - Mick - 04-23-2016

(04-23-2016, 05:55 PM)FarmBoy link Wrote:I just find it weird the treasury actively cultivates a collectibles market. I like that they'll change the face on a bill every few years, but all these different coins that are never used for practical purposes seems like a non vital government function that should be shuttered.

No different than collectible stamps issued by the government that will never be used for postage.  Raises some cash for the govt.

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