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RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 07-01-2026

Mick dateline='[url=tel:1782916639' Wrote: 1782916639[/url]']
Not sure where to put this, but I'll leave it here. Comparing leaguewide season attendance for area sports teams with their overall leaguewide standings:

Team Attendance Standing
Giants 7th 27th
49ers 7th 13th
Warriors 17th 21st
Sharks 31st* T22nd

* Last season's attendance ranking

The Sharks bumped up to 28th in 2025-26 (92.8% of capacity). Given their arena capacity ranks 25th in the NHL, that is not too bad.

In 2026-27, look for them to return to the glory days of the Thornton era when they sold out most of their games. Celebrini is worth the price of admission.

Thanks for the post. Anything that turns our attention away from the Giants this year is appreciated.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 07-18-2026

Giants' minor league teams in first place: Richmond, San Jose, Eugene. Their rookie team (Arizona Complex) is in 2nd place of 15. And Sacramento (AAA) is 3rd of 10. So their draft and player development is first rate. Incidentally, there's a Dominican Summer League with 50 teams, and the Giants are 9th and 15th in that league.

I have the solution for the MLB Giants:
1. Sign Arraez to a long-term contract. He's a talent, don't let him go. 3rd in MLB in 2b WAR.
2. Also talents, so keep Eldridge, Schmitt, Ramos (16th in LF WAR, but cheap), Lee (18th WAR for RF, but fans love him), Webb, Loupp.
3. Dump their catchers, 25th in collective WAR.
4. Devers is average (15th in WAR for 1Bs, but too expensive). Get what you can for him. Eldridge can play 1B
5. Chapman is 4th in MLB for 3B WAR. Keep him...although, 3B is Schmitt's natural position. If the G's can't trade Adames, but can trade Chapman, I'd support that.
6. Giants center fielders are 17th collectively. Bader can go. Bericoto in CF.
7. Adames is 20th in WAR, but he heats up dramatically in the second half. Stinks through June, kills it from July to year end. Trade him, but after the season when his numbers look more normal. Schmitt can play SS.
8. As for pitchers, trade any guy not named Webb or Loupp, but particularly Ray, Mahle, Houser, Borucki, Walker, Beck, Kilian, Gage, Dylan Smith needs to go.
9. Keep Whisenhunt, Miller, Tidwell, Brubaker, Peguero, Winn, Hentges, McDonald, Peguero, Rodriguez.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - BobK - 07-18-2026

Please please trade Chapman Schmidt should be 3B

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 07-18-2026

(07-18-2026, 06:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Please please trade Chapman Schmidt should be 3B

How does this sound?

- Move Schmidt to his natural 3B position. If you look at Rtot, it's his best position by a mile.
- Sign Luis Arraez to a long term contract.
- Keep Eldridge as the starter at 1B
- Trade a catcher, Chapman, Devers and Adames to either the Royals (for Bobby Witt Jr., #2 overall WAR at SS and Carter Jensen at catcher) or the Angels (for Zach Neto, #8 overall WAR) and pitching prospects, either Chourio and Shields (both Royals high-A or slightly lesser pitchers Lombardi/Arronde/Beam/Langevin) or Klassen (strong AAA starter) and another Angels pitcher . Both teams are terrible and need A LOT of help. Both teams have flat-out terrible 1B and 3Bs. If either gets Chapman, Devers AND Adames, they will improve their team considerably. Giants take back a big chunk of their compensation.
- OFs are Ramos, Bericoto and Lee
- Backups are Christian Koss in IF, Grant McCrary and Harrison Bader (still under contract for one more year) in OF

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 07-18-2026

(07-18-2026, 08:58 AM)Mick Wrote:
(07-18-2026, 06:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Please please trade Chapman Schmidt should be 3B

How does this sound?

- Move Schmidt to his natural 3B position. If you look at Rtot, it's his best position by a mile.
- Sign Luis Arraez to a long term contract.
- Keep Eldridge as the starter at 1B
- Trade a catcher, Chapman, Devers and Adames to either the Royals (for Bobby Witt Jr., #2 overall WAR at SS and Carter Jensen at catcher) or the Angels (for Zach Neto, #8 overall WAR) and pitching prospects, either Chourio and Shields (both Royals high-A or slightly lesser pitchers Lombardi/Arronde/Beam/Langevin) or Klassen (strong AAA starter) and another Angels pitcher . Both teams are terrible and need A LOT of help. Both teams have flat-out terrible 1B and 3Bs. If either gets Chapman, Devers AND Adames, they will improve their team considerably. Giants take back a big chunk of their compensation.
- OFs are Ramos, Bericoto and Lee
- Backups are Christian Koss in IF, Grant McCrary and Harrison Bader (still under contract for one more year) in OF

Per their contracts, Adames and Chapman have to agree before they can be traded. The likelihood of that happening is somewhere between nil and 0.5%.

Given the amount remaining on Devers’ contract, the likelihood of him being traded is even less.

Ray and Arreaz (both on expiring contracts) remain the most likely to be dealt.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - old spanish trail - 07-18-2026

(07-18-2026, 09:33 AM)Giants Wrote:
(07-18-2026, 08:58 AM)Mick Wrote:
(07-18-2026, 06:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Please please trade Chapman Schmidt should be 3B

How does this sound?

- Move Schmidt to his natural 3B position. If you look at Rtot, it's his best position by a mile.
- Sign Luis Arraez to a long term contract.
- Keep Eldridge as the starter at 1B
- Trade a catcher, Chapman, Devers and Adames to either the Royals (for Bobby Witt Jr., #2 overall WAR at SS and Carter Jensen at catcher) or the Angels (for Zach Neto, #8 overall WAR) and pitching prospects, either Chourio and Shields (both Royals high-A or slightly lesser pitchers Lombardi/Arronde/Beam/Langevin) or Klassen (strong AAA starter) and another Angels pitcher . Both teams are terrible and need A LOT of help. Both teams have flat-out terrible 1B and 3Bs. If either gets Chapman, Devers AND Adames, they will improve their team considerably. Giants take back a big chunk of their compensation.
- OFs are Ramos, Bericoto and Lee
- Backups are Christian Koss in IF, Grant McCrary and Harrison Bader (still under contract for one more year) in OF

Per their contracts, Adames and Chapman have to agree before they can be traded. The likelihood of that happening is somewhere between nil and 0.5%.

Given the amount remaining on Devers’ contract, the likelihood of him being traded is even less.

Ray and Arreaz (both on expiring contracts) remain the most likely to be dealt.

Why wouldn't Adames or Chapman agree to be traded to a contending team that needed them, especially with a nice bonus attached?

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 07-18-2026

(07-18-2026, 03:14 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:
(07-18-2026, 09:33 AM)Giants Wrote:
(07-18-2026, 08:58 AM)Mick Wrote:
(07-18-2026, 06:26 AM)BobK Wrote: Please please trade Chapman Schmidt should be 3B

How does this sound?

- Move Schmidt to his natural 3B position. If you look at Rtot, it's his best position by a mile.
- Sign Luis Arraez to a long term contract.
- Keep Eldridge as the starter at 1B
- Trade a catcher, Chapman, Devers and Adames to either the Royals (for Bobby Witt Jr., #2 overall WAR at SS and Carter Jensen at catcher) or the Angels (for Zach Neto, #8 overall WAR) and pitching prospects, either Chourio and Shields (both Royals high-A or slightly lesser pitchers Lombardi/Arronde/Beam/Langevin) or Klassen (strong AAA starter) and another Angels pitcher . Both teams are terrible and need A LOT of help. Both teams have flat-out terrible 1B and 3Bs. If either gets Chapman, Devers AND Adames, they will improve their team considerably. Giants take back a big chunk of their compensation.
- OFs are Ramos, Bericoto and Lee
- Backups are Christian Koss in IF, Grant McCrary and Harrison Bader (still under contract for one more year) in OF

Per their contracts, Adames and Chapman have to agree before they can be traded. The likelihood of that happening is somewhere between nil and 0.5%.

Given the amount remaining on Devers’ contract, the likelihood of him being traded is even less.

Ray and Arreaz (both on expiring contracts) remain the most likely to be dealt.

Why wouldn't Adames or Chapman agree to be traded to a contending team that needed them, especially with a nice bonus attached?

Because their contracts are boat anchors? SF would have take on far more than they would willing to pay to entice someone to kick the tires…

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 08-02-2026

The first move has been made - Tyler Mahle to Atlanta for Anthony Molina (a nondescript reliever). Next up, Ray and Arraez - I doubt SF will get much back for them. This trade deadline has been just another disappointing brick to toss on the pile.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - triangle2 - 08-03-2026

(08-02-2026, 07:09 PM)Giants Wrote: The first move has been made - Tyler Mahle to Atlanta for Anthony Molina (a nondescript reliever). Next up, Ray and Arraez - I doubt SF will get much back for them. This trade deadline has been just another disappointing brick to toss on the pile.

On its face, this seems like a crap deal. Molina has pitched 99 1/3 innings at the major league level, and his stats (over 3 seasons) are terrible. Career 6.89 ERA, 5.16 FIP, 69 ERA+. His walk to strikeout ratio is good, but maybe because bats seem to be running into his pitches a lot.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 08-03-2026

This was a pure salary dump. Molina will never see another major league mound, nor should he.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - BobK - 08-03-2026

Looks like Arraez to the Phillies. Hate this Giants get a really good player and can’t wait to get rid of him
Looks like Giants are getting 2 good young pitchers

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 08-03-2026

(08-03-2026, 07:25 AM)BobK Wrote: Looks like Arraez to the Phillies. Hate this Giants get a really good player and can’t wait to get rid of him
Looks like Giants are getting 2 good young pitchers

I can’t complain about this deal. SF had no interest in signing Arraez to an extension (too expensive, and more importantly, he would block the path now being walked by guys like Level, Hernandez, Gonzalez and Kilen).

Also, Marquez was the #9 prospect in the Phillies organization. At 20 years old, he fits in with the aforementioned quartet as the future of the Giants.

Next up: Robbie Ray. Hopefully, the return for him will include another top 10 pitching prospect.

triangle2 - triangle2 - 08-03-2026

Robbie Ray to the Padres?

RE: triangle2 - Giants - 08-03-2026

(08-03-2026, 11:21 AM)triangle2 Wrote: Robbie Ray to the Padres?

The trade is done. The return includes RHP Miguel Mendez the #4 prospect in the Padres organization and SS Joniel Hernandez, San Diego’s #9 prospect. SF tossed in roughly $4 million to complete the deal.

One more deal…

Erik Miller to Boston for INF Marcelo Mayer (he attended the same HS as Casey Schmitt). I’m guessing Meyer will play 2B in place of Arraez.

IMO, this trade is basically a shuffling of the deck - an inconsistent reliever who never could establish himself for a random infielder who is keeping the seat warm until Schmitt returns next year.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - triangle2 - 08-03-2026

Unless there was a last second deal, that means Brubaker and Hentges are still on the team and Ramos is gone to the Yanks for LHP LaLane and Jeff Kent's son. Did their public displays make Brubaker and Hentges un-tradeable? I mean, I would have traded them for a bad year Johnnie LeMaster at this point.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 08-03-2026

Overall, a good day for SF.

It started kinda slow with the Mahle dump but picked up pace with the Arraez/Ray deals and ended with a bang by acquiring a highly rated prospect from the Yankees for Ramos. Add the Miller for Mayer (a lottery ticket) trade and I think Posey has to be commended for his work.

And yes, it would have been nice to see Adames in another jersey but that wasn’t realistic. I would be interested in hearing the short term plan that bridges the team from now until one of the young SS’s comes up because Adames is a significant liability at the position.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 08-03-2026

I don't think you could have traded Adames until after the season. He always has a killer last half of the season. He'll be more tradeable as will Devers and Chapman after the season.

The grades that I've been seeing indicate that the Giants have received a lot of value in their trades over the past week. They lose a net $10.16 million in salary, gained eight prospects, seven of whom are quite strong, one of whom is Jeff Kent's son -- so that's fun.

I'm going to make a prediction. Right now, the Giants W/L record is .425. After having shed Ray, Mahle, Miller, Kilian, Arraez and Ramos, you would think the Giants would do much worse. I think they'll have a better W/L record at the end of the season than .425.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Giants - 08-04-2026

(08-03-2026, 08:19 PM)Mick Wrote: I don't think you could have traded Adames until after the season. He always has a killer last half of the season. He'll be more tradeable as will Devers and Chapman after the season.

The grades that I've been seeing indicate that the Giants have received a lot of value in their trades over the past week. They lose a net $10.16 million in salary, gained eight prospects, seven of whom are quite strong, one of whom is Jeff Kent's son -- so that's fun.

I'm going to make a prediction. Right now, the Giants W/L record is .425. After having shed Ray, Mahle, Miller, Kilian, Arraez and Ramos, you would think the Giants would do much worse. I think they'll have a better W/L record at the end of the season than .425.

After this season, Chapman will be owed roughly $100M with a no trade clause, Adames will be owed roughly $155M with a no trade clause and Devers will be owed roughly $225M

Quite frankly, I don’t see any of them going anywhere.

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - BobK - 08-04-2026

https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/giants

This is a list of the top prospects updated after yesterday’s trade. Doesn’t look like much help for next season

Our ability to develop pitchers has been poor. So the first priority must be to correct that.

We are loaded with top SS prospects

RE: 2026 San Francisco Giants - Mick - 08-04-2026

(08-04-2026, 08:17 AM)BobK Wrote: https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/giants

This is a list of the top prospects updated after yesterday’s trade. Doesn’t look like much help for next season

Our ability to develop pitchers has been poor. So the first priority must be to correct that.

We are loaded with top SS prospects

I imagine we'll trade some of the top SS prospects for pitching help in the offseason.