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RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - FarmTeam - 12-31-2022

(12-31-2022, 02:54 PM)JJJ Wrote:  
(12-31-2022, 02:24 PM)BobK Wrote:  I have said for years please Haase set screens for threes.  I’m so wrong. Today open threes bad misses including air balls.  And just like that Ingram makes a three.  Stanford down 19-13

We’re 2-12 in threes at the half. 
34.5% FG vs 60% for utes. 
If we can hang around and win, it would be quite the accomplishment. 

Only met Haase briefly but seems genuinely wonderful. Reminded me of Ted Lasso and then The Athletic revealed that he is indeed a of immense proportions fan.

That article was the final straw for me regarding Haase. Love the show, but, come on, Ted Lasso is a fictional character! The fact that Haase was inspired to emulate him spoke volumes...and not in a good way. :)

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - Farm93 - 12-31-2022

I do like this strategy of scheduling games during football playoff contests.
Maybe in future weeks the Pac-12 can reschedule Stanford games against the NFL playoff games.

It hurts a lot less when I have entertainment alternatives.

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - FarmTeam - 12-31-2022

(12-31-2022, 02:48 PM)old spanish trail Wrote:  The next time I see a screen set for S Jones for a catch and shoot will be the first. It's coaching malfeasance.

Whoa! Rewind to 18:10...Keefe set a high screen for S Jones on the perimeter and Ingram fed Jones the ball as he curled around. Inexplicably, Jones passed up the wide-open look and drove towards the basket then pulled up for a much tougher shot (which of course he missed). Maybe he was too stunned to realize what had happened? Maybe he didn't know what it was given he had never seen it before? :) I was so surprised that I rewound then froze the screen and took a photo!

S Jones hits the open 3 at 8:30 after 2 more screens! Maybe Haase reads this Board? :)

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - JJJ - 12-31-2022

Battled back to within 2 at one point!

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - BobK - 12-31-2022

Jones open Haase calls time as Jones nails a three but time has been called

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - magnus - 12-31-2022

Even if we can't seem to get over the hump,  the team doesn't give up.

Too bad we don't get a 5 pt handicap each game.

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - JJJ - 12-31-2022

(12-31-2022, 03:55 PM)BobK Wrote:  Jones open Haase calls time as Jones nails a three but time has been called

That one hurt

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - burger - 12-31-2022

(12-31-2022, 04:11 PM)JJJ Wrote:  
(12-31-2022, 03:55 PM)BobK Wrote:  Jones open Haase calls time as Jones nails a three but time has been called

That one hurt

I actually can't fault Haase here.  It looked like a busted possession with everyone out of position.  Haase called the TO before the pass to Jones.

Losing Angel near the end was killer.  Michael Jones is not a great defender.  We couldn't get stops after that.

Too little, too late overall.  Same story as dozens of other losses under Haase.

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - BostonCard - 12-31-2022

Yup, same ole, same ole.  Fall behind early, battle back to make it close, but end up just short.

BC

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - burger - 12-31-2022

Meanwhile, Cal beat Colorado.  So we are dead last in the Pac-12 (WSU is 0-3).  

I doubt that we can even get to 6 wins in the conference.  Muir had better have a shortlist of coaching candidates ready to go.

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - SkiBum80 - 12-31-2022

(12-31-2022, 04:36 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  Yup, same ole, same ole.  Fall behind early, battle back to make it close, but end up just short.

BC

It’s like watching the same movie over and over. With a naive hope that it somehow might have a different ending.
On the other hand, These guys racking up an impressive collection of PAC-12 participation ribbons

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - winflop - 01-01-2023

(12-31-2022, 06:26 PM)burger Wrote:  Meanwhile, Cal beat Colorado.  So we are dead last in the Pac-12 (WSU is 0-3).  

I doubt that we can even get to 6 wins in the conference.  Muir had better have a shortlist of coaching candidates ready to go.

MTL had better have a short list of AD candidates ready to go too.
BOT had better have a short list of candidates for President ready to go too.

Stanford is a s***storm of incompetence and malfeasance. I'm almost embarassed to call myself an alum

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - Snorlax94 - 01-03-2023

(01-01-2023, 04:45 AM)winflop Wrote:  MTL had better have a short list of AD candidates ready to go too.
BOT had better have a short list of candidates for President ready to go too.

Stanford is a s***storm of incompetence and malfeasance. I'm almost embarassed to call myself an alum

Stanford is a sh*t storm of incompetence and malfeasance because it had losing seasons in men’s basketball AND football?

A Stanford prof picked up a Nobel Prize in Chemistry and a PhD alum became only the fifth person ever to win a second Nobel Prize, so, that is a pretty high bar to set for a “total sh*t storm.” I think most universities never have a single year ever with that many Nobels, and I don’t even think that was a particularly great year for Stanford.

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - winflop - 01-03-2023

(01-03-2023, 01:01 AM)Snorlax94 Wrote:  
(01-01-2023, 04:45 AM)winflop Wrote:  MTL had better have a short list of AD candidates ready to go too.
BOT had better have a short list of candidates for President ready to go too.

Stanford is a s***storm of incompetence and malfeasance. I'm almost embarassed to call myself an alum

Stanford is a sh*t storm of incompetence and malfeasance because it had losing seasons in men’s basketball AND football?

A Stanford prof picked up a Nobel Prize in Chemistry and a PhD alum became only the fifth person ever to win a second Nobel Prize, so, that is a pretty high bar to set for a “total sh*t storm.” I think most universities never have a single year ever with that many Nobels, and I don’t even think that was a particularly great year for Stanford.

That's the tip of the iceberg. We need a new AD because the current one can't manage the department's finances, lacked the institutional controls to scrutinize a half-million dollar donation to the sailing program from someone who had never donated before and whose daughter was applying for admission, completely botched the softball coaching scandal a few years ago, kept an obviously poor basketball coach for too long (twice!), didn't demand changes to the football staff after the 2021 season, and lost the trust of much of the athletics donor base over his handling of the cutting of varsity sports. Among other issues. A competent President/Provost would have shown him the door already.

We need a new President (and Provost) because the current one abjectly failed to follow through on commitments to boost resources for mental health (the REAL pandemic that has been plaguing colleges and high schools). An argument could be made that the statements made in the wake of Katie Meyer's suicide were bald-faced lies but I'm not prepared to go there. And then there's the whole academic integrity thing - he should have stepped aside pending the investigation and the BOT should have demanded he do it.

That's the s***storm of incompetence and malfeasance to which I'm referring. Nobels are nice to have but I'm more interested in what's being done that directly impacts students and in the case of the AD, student athletes

RE: MBB Thread (5-8, 0-3) - AlbanyCardinal - 01-03-2023

Amen, Winflop.

(01-03-2023, 06:26 AM)winflop Wrote:  
(01-03-2023, 01:01 AM)Snorlax94 Wrote:  
(01-01-2023, 04:45 AM)winflop Wrote:  MTL had better have a short list of AD candidates ready to go too.
BOT had better have a short list of candidates for President ready to go too.

Stanford is a s***storm of incompetence and malfeasance. I'm almost embarassed to call myself an alum

Stanford is a sh*t storm of incompetence and malfeasance because it had losing seasons in men’s basketball AND football?

A Stanford prof picked up a Nobel Prize in Chemistry and a PhD alum became only the fifth person ever to win a second Nobel Prize, so, that is a pretty high bar to set for a “total sh*t storm.” I think most universities never have a single year ever with that many Nobels, and I don’t even think that was a particularly great year for Stanford.

That's the tip of the iceberg. We need a new AD because the current one can't manage the department's finances, lacked the institutional controls to scrutinize a half-million dollar donation to the sailing program from someone who had never donated before and whose daughter was applying for admission, completely botched the softball coaching scandal a few years ago, and lost the trust of much of the athletics donor base over his handling of the cutting of varsity sports.

We need a new President (and Provost) because the current one abjectly failed to follow through on commitments to boost resources for mental health (the REAL pandemic that has been plaguing colleges and high schools). An argument could be made that the statements made in the wake of Katie Meyer's suicide were bald-faced lies but I'm not prepared to go there. And then there's the whole academic integrity thing - he should have stepped aside pending the investigation and the BOT should have demanded he do it.

That's the s***storm of incompetence and malfeasance to which I'm referring. Nobels are nice to have but I'm more interested in what's being done that directly impacts students and student athletes


RE: MBB Thread (5-9, 0-4) - SkiBum80 - 01-03-2023

Regarding our crappy start 5-9, with 0-4 conference, some excuses:
a) bunch players hurt? ... no not really
b) bunch of away games? ... no not really, half at home and of the away, more neutral sites than true away, and 3 of 4 Pac-12 been at home.
c) bunch of tough opponents? .. yeah some, lost to every one of them
d) at least got some Quality wins? .. well, which is best quality win, Fl State? they're 4-11 overall

Our 0-4 conf start matches Haase's worst back at start of his Stanford HC career, so he's come "full circle".
A loss away at Cal will give him a new Stanford "record".

RE: MBB Thread (5-9, 0-4) - BostonCard - 01-04-2023

The mental health crisis clearly falls under the Provost’s (not really rising up to the President) responsibility.  Apparently Stanford has four open positions that it is struggling to fill, which is unsurprising given how much in demand mental health professionals are at the moment, and how limited the supply is.  

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/19/stanford-pledged-to-increase-caps-resources-in-march-seven-months-later-some-students-say-theyre-still-waiting/

More broadly, Provost Drell is really going to have to figure out the “Stanford hates fun” problem, and so far, the promise to hire more administrators to streamline permitting seems Counterproductive.

BC

RE: MBB Thread (5-9, 0-4) - winflop - 01-04-2023

(01-04-2023, 12:39 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  The mental health crisis clearly falls under the Provost’s (not really rising up to the President) responsibility.  Apparently Stanford has four open positions that it is struggling to fill, which is unsurprising given how much in demand mental health professionals are at the moment, and how limited the supply is.  

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/10/19/stanford-pledged-to-increase-caps-resources-in-march-seven-months-later-some-students-say-theyre-still-waiting/

More broadly, Provost Drell is really going to have to figure out the “Stanford hates fun” problem, and so far, the promise to hire more administrators to streamline permitting seems Counterproductive.

BC

I agree but it was MTL who committed to boost resources and then didn't follow through to make sure it happened. Both MTL & Drell need to go

RE: MBB Thread (5-9, 0-4) - BostonCard - 01-04-2023

I mean, it sounds like they funded the positions for more mental health professionals. I’d assume that MTL is not the hiring manager (or even Drell, for that matter).  There’s a nationwide shortage of mental health professionals, so the fact that we have had trouble filling the position is not surprising, and probably not really MTL’s fault.

BC

RE: MBB Thread (5-9, 0-4) - burger - 01-04-2023

(01-04-2023, 11:52 AM)BostonCard Wrote:  I mean, it sounds like they funded the positions for more mental health professionals. I’d assume that MTL is not the hiring manager (or even Drell, for that matter).  There’s a nationwide shortage of mental health professionals, so the fact that we have had trouble filling the position is not surprising, and probably not really MTL’s fault.

BC

I agree on the lack of hiring not being the Prez's fault.  But there are plenty of other solutions besides hiring new therapists--contract with local providers, give students access to telehealth providers, etc.  A university as rich as Stanford should not have any problem finding solutions to this problem.

A university administration that was committed to improving access to mental health treatment would come up with other ways.  The fact that we haven't is ultimately MTL's fault.