WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (AZ vs UCONN)

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RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - crackpot - 03-24-2021

I had to leave the house after that ISU/A&M game and I really didn't care who won. The officiating was SO bad and unfair to ISU. It was infuriating. Why bother playing the game if you are just going to strut around and make calls that so obviously favor one team?

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - 81alum - 03-24-2021

Vic Schaefer is becoming one of my least favorite sideline coaches. He is constantly up, face beet-red, screaming at the refs or his players.

With Horvat also hurt, and Onyenwere fouling out, I am surprised that UCLA has 5 players to put on the court.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - martyup - 03-24-2021

Amazing that UCLA has not hit a 3 in the entire game, but are only down by 10.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - 81alum - 03-24-2021

(03-24-2021, 08:18 PM)crackpot Wrote: I had to leave the house after that ISU/A&M game and I really didn't care who won. The officiating was SO bad and unfair to ISU. It was infuriating. Why bother playing the game if you are just going to strut around and make calls that so obviously favor one team?

The criticism of the NCAA's obvious sexist treatment of women's basketball mentioned the unequal COVID tests, the unequal weight rooms, and the unequal food. But it should also have noted the unequal officiating. Of course, the bad quality of officiating in WBB is decades old, not something new during the COVID tournament. I wonder, do they pay the refs of the women's game the same as they do the refs of men's games?

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - terry - 03-24-2021

Iowa State wouldn't have had to worry about officiating if they hadn't had 24 turnovers.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - 81alum - 03-24-2021

And that's it, UCLA goes down to defeat. The Pac 12 got 3 teams into the S16 but they were not the three that were expected--UCLA underperformed and Oregon overperformed.

The Big 10 has 4 teams: Indiana, Maryland, Iowa and Michigan. I would not be surprised if all 4 of them lost though. Maryland will be playing Texas and the Texas defense is formidable.

So, do any of you think Oregon has a chance to knock off Louisville?

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - BostonCard - 03-24-2021

Too big a hole to dig out of for the Bruins, who lost 71-62. They outscored Texas 48-36 in the second half, but since they were down 35-14 at halftime, it was too little, too late. Onyenwere had 23, but it took her 22 shots to get there; Osborne had 17, but was only 4/16 (1/9 from 3), Bessoir had 11 and the rest of the supporting cast had 11 combined.

UCLA finally did make a 3, but ended the day 1/19 for a shade over 5% from behind the arc. They shot 33% overall, while allowing Texas to shoot 51%. The only reason it was close was that UCLA outrebounded Texas 39-29 and thus had 14 more shot attempts than the Longhorns (and a few extra free throws). UCLA's bench was short (only 3 subs came in), but shockingly, Texas' was even shorter; only 7 players played and only 6 attempted a shot.

BC

(03-24-2021, 08:44 PM)81alum Wrote: The Big 10 has 4 teams: Indiana, Maryland, Iowa and Michigan. I would not be surprised if all 4 of them lost though. Maryland will be playing Texas and the Texas defense is formidable.

So, do any of you think Oregon has a chance to knock off Louisville?

I think Maryland has the offense to beat Texas; UCLA really was the Onyenwere and Osborne show, and when they were struggling there was no one else to pick up the slack. Maryland has a much more diverse offense.

Yes, of course Oregon has a chance to knock off Louisville, who looked pretty pedestrian against Northwestern (at least for a half), but it will be an uphill battle for the Ducks.

BC

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - chimera - 03-24-2021

UA did not look great today. I have not been very high on them. They are a solid team, but only McDonald is really great, and she tends to do too much. Plus she can be slowed down, which kills UA. UCLA played an abysmal game. That first half was ridiculously bad, an F- if we are grading. They were thin, yes, but the talent was there with Onyenwere and Osborne, and a few good shooters on offense, along with their smack you around a bit defense and rebounding. They made Texas look like world beaters in the first half. I don't know what their plan was but they looked totally unready to play. I was not surprised UA struggled to beat BYU. I was surprised UCLA did not show better. Oregon looked good using their two posts together and their zone bothered GA.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - crackpot - 03-25-2021

(03-24-2021, 08:30 PM)81alum Wrote:
(03-24-2021, 08:18 PM)crackpot Wrote: I had to leave the house after that ISU/A&M game and I really didn't care who won. The officiating was SO bad and unfair to ISU. It was infuriating. Why bother playing the game if you are just going to strut around and make calls that so obviously favor one team?
The criticism of the NCAA's obvious sexist treatment of women's basketball mentioned the unequal COVID tests, the unequal weight rooms, and the unequal food. But it should also have noted the unequal officiating. Of course, the bad quality of officiating in WBB is decades old, not something new during the COVID tournament. I wonder, do they pay the refs of the women's game the same as they do the refs of men's games?

Very good question, 81. I would be shocked if they are getting paid the same as the men.

And perhaps the bad quality of officiating in WBB is decades old because we still have most of the same refs we were seeing before the members of this team were even born.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - BillBradley - 03-25-2021

Thoughts on other teams remaining:
- We're gonna lay it on Mo St. Could be a perfect game for us to get our mojo back. Sometimes you have to be a bit lucky, and this is a great break for us. Card by 20+.
- Oregon has a real chance against Louisville. Van Lith is a phenom, but I don't think the rest of them constitute a Final 4 team. I like our chances if we face them. Actually, I'm not sure who we want to win.
- I'm really looking forward to Maryland-Texas. We're going to find out a lot about Maryland. I think they've been fortunate so far to play teams that can't hang with their pace. If they put up 80+ against Texas I'll be very surprised (and then scared).
- How great is the UConn/Iowa/Baylor/Michigan bracket? Wow, what fun games. Winner of that bracket gets to the finals.
- Arizona got a great draw. A&M is going to have their hands full with Aari. We've seen plenty of teams who have a player like Aari who carry them to the promised land. Even though she tries to do too much, they need her to do too much. If she's on, they can win. Not likely, but you never know!

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - Phogge - 03-25-2021

As for refs the men’s game was more enjoyable with two refs. Plus a change I would like to see after six fouls per half is one free throw plus possession. I am tired of the three pointer too. It could become a center/forward game again. No palming, no more TV timeouts. Of course will never happen and I will continue to watch at a 10% clip over the way I watched in the 60’s.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - BostonCard - 03-25-2021

(03-25-2021, 08:54 AM)BillBradley Wrote: - We're gonna lay it on Mo St. Could be a perfect game for us to get our mojo back. Sometimes you have to be a bit lucky, and this is a great break for us. Card by 20+.

We need an autocorrect for woofing god worthy posts.

BC

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - oldalum - 03-25-2021

(03-25-2021, 09:10 AM)BostonCard Wrote:
(03-25-2021, 08:54 AM)BillBradley Wrote: - We're gonna play it on Mo St. Could be a perfect game for us to get our mojo back. Sometimes you have to be a bit lucky, and this is a great tough break for us. Card by 20 a hair.
We need an autocorrect for woofing god worthy posts.

just need a counterbalancing post

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - Hurlburt88 - 03-25-2021

at this point everyone we play is a top 20 team worthy of respect . . .

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - crackpot - 03-25-2021

(03-24-2021, 08:20 PM)81alum Wrote: Vic Schaefer is becoming one of my least favorite sideline coaches. He is constantly up, face beet-red, screaming at the refs or his players.

With Horvat also hurt, and Onyenwere fouling out, I am surprised that UCLA has 5 players to put on the court.

If someone took up a collection to ship off Vic Schaefer, Bill Fennelly, and Gary Blair in a boat off the Gulf Coast, I would donate heavily.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - Hulk01 - 03-25-2021

(03-25-2021, 11:25 AM)crackpot Wrote:
(03-24-2021, 08:20 PM)81alum Wrote: Vic Schaefer is becoming one of my least favorite sideline coaches. He is constantly up, face beet-red, screaming at the refs or his players.

With Horvat also hurt, and Onyenwere fouling out, I am surprised that UCLA has 5 players to put on the court.

If someone took up a collection to ship off Vic Schaefer, Bill Fennelly, and Gary Blair in a boat off the Gulf Coast, I would donate heavily.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - M T - 03-25-2021

(03-24-2021, 08:20 PM)81alum Wrote: With Horvat also hurt, and Onyenwere fouling out, I am surprised that UCLA has 5 players to put on the court.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall hearing much about UCLA having a short bench from the announcers. I guess they were talking too much about someone's birthday.

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - BostonCard - 03-25-2021

(03-25-2021, 01:45 PM)M T Wrote:
(03-24-2021, 08:20 PM)81alum Wrote: With Horvat also hurt, and Onyenwere fouling out, I am surprised that UCLA has 5 players to put on the court.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall hearing much about UCLA having a short bench from the announcers. I guess they were talking too much about someone's birthday.

Texas actually played fewer players (7 players played, and only 6 attempted a shot), so the "short bench" thing affected both teams. UCLA has played the whole season shorthanded.

BC

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - M T - 03-25-2021

(03-25-2021, 01:51 PM)BostonCard Wrote:
(03-25-2021, 01:45 PM)M T Wrote:
(03-24-2021, 08:20 PM)81alum Wrote: With Horvat also hurt, and Onyenwere fouling out, I am surprised that UCLA has 5 players to put on the court.

Maybe I missed it, but I don't recall hearing much about UCLA having a short bench from the announcers. I guess they were talking too much about someone's birthday.

Texas actually played fewer players (7 players played, and only 6 attempted a shot), so the "short bench" thing affected both teams. UCLA has played the whole season shorthanded.

BC

So the game, at 41 fouls called, was possibly just 5 fouls short of playing 5 (incl. hurt Horvat who had just 2 minutes) on 4 (incl. Ortiz who had just 2 minutes) with no benches? (2 players on UCLA had 4 fouls & 1 fouled out; 3 players on Texas had 4 fouls)

I admit to skipping forward during the game, but I didn't hear them making a big deal of the specter of playing short-handed. (I did hear one mention of the Australians(?) freshmen that couldn't get to the US).

RE: WBB: NCAA TOURNEY (OTHER TEAMS) - BobK - 03-25-2021

Two Aussie Frosh couldn’t get visas. One has since turned pro