Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21

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RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - BostonCard - 06-14-2021

(06-13-2021, 11:39 PM)bnarver Wrote: Then in June 2005, NACDA tried reducing the value of some sports (men's and women's lacrosse, field hockey, women's gymnastics, and ice hockey) by 50%, so 1st was only worth 50 points, etc. That didn't go over well at all and was quickly switched back for 2006-7. Note that in the Capital One Cup, both men's and women's lacrosse are worth 3x most other sports. I've never understood that.

ESPN televises lacrosse and was keen to increase viewership.

BC

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - BobK - 06-14-2021

So anyone have the current score?

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - Phogge - 06-14-2021

ESPN sucks great big elephant dung.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - BostonCard - 06-14-2021

(06-14-2021, 08:03 AM)Phogge Wrote: ESPN sucks great big elephant dung.

The NCAA creates enough of its own problems, but I wonder how much the problems are exacerbated by ESPN.

BC

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - bnarver - 06-14-2021

(06-14-2021, 08:03 AM)BobK Wrote: So anyone have the current score?

MT had this a few responses back. I updated Texas since they are now in the CWS and are also assured of 73 points like Stanford. We differ slightly due to how scoring in T&F will go for ties. Texas wins, Stanford is 2nd. N. Carolina in 3rd by a point or so over Florida. Michigan 5th. MT has Ohio St. over UCLA by about a point for 6th. I have it reversed.

Sport    Stanford    UCLA     Florida N.Carolina Ohio St.    Michigan      Texas
Fall sports
Winter sports
   Place Pts Place Pts Place Pts Place Pts   Place Pts   Place Pts   Place Pts
Baseball    ?    ? 17   50       49 25 33   37.5 ?   ?
Beach volleyball    7   25    2   90
Women's golf    5   72.75 15   60       25 47.5                                           5 72.75
Men's golf 37   34.5                22 52    5   72.75                            25 49
Women's lacrosse 17   25 5  70     3   83
Men's lacrosse 3   83
Rowing    2   90                   6    72 4    80       1 100
Softball 17   50    5   78 9 64
  (minus M SW    -48 -26)
Women's tennis 17   50   5   73   17 50     3   83      9    64      5 73 1 100
Men's tennis 17   50    33   25     1 100    9   64       9    64     17    50       3 83
Women's T&F         25   47   T40 31 T7 72 T40 31 T11 66         T7 72
Men's T&F          T42   29   T50 22    4 80 T57   15   T57 15    T24    50    T6 73.5
Men's VB
Women's water polo 3   83    2   90         5   60

Fall + Winter    770     413.75       563         696.5        652.5        769.5       558.25
Total   1117.75    932.75      1123.5      1124.75    933.5       1082.5      1172.50
Min                    1190.75       1245.50
Max                    1217.75       1272.50

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - Papa John - 06-15-2021

They are claiming Texas' first ever Directors' Cup over at Orangebloods/Rivals, so at least it's on the radar of some Longhorns fans.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - terry - 06-15-2021

How would the scoring have changed if our women's volleyball team had qualified for the tournament, and maybe won a couple rounds?

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - Papa John - 06-15-2021

(06-15-2021, 03:25 PM)terry Wrote: How would the scoring have changed if our women's volleyball team had qualified for the tournament, and maybe won a couple rounds?

Lots of what-ifs, Terry.

What if Stanford football had played a full season and had its starting left tackle, best cornerback and starting QB prepared and playing, and it ended up in a bowl game and ranked at season's end?

What if Zaire Williams, Daejon Davis and Bryce Wills had not missed so many games and Stanford men's BB had made the tournament?

What if, in summer 2020, officials had announced that the summer Olympics would be postponed until 2022, and athletes who had left Stanford to train played for Stanford instead?

What if the officials had ruled the knee down/forward lateral on November 20, 1982?

At this point, I tip my cap to Texas and congratulate them on winning the Directors' Cup.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - Langdude - 06-15-2021

(06-15-2021, 03:59 PM)Papa John Wrote:
(06-15-2021, 03:25 PM)terry Wrote: How would the scoring have changed if our women's volleyball team had qualified for the tournament, and maybe won a couple rounds?

Lots of what-ifs, Terry.

What if Stanford football had played a full season and had its starting left tackle, best cornerback and starting QB prepared and playing, and it ended up in a bowl game and ranked at season's end?

What if Zaire Williams, Daejon Davis and Bryce Wills had not missed so many games and Stanford men's BB had made the tournament?

What if, in summer 2020, officials had announced that the summer Olympics would be postponed until 2022, and athletes who had left Stanford to train played for Stanford instead?

What if the officials had ruled the knee down/forward lateral on November 20, 1982?

At this point, I tip my cap to Texas and congratulate them on winning the Directors' Cup.

This is kind of where I'm at, too. We fell short in too many sports this year, and had too many unlucky things happen, when margins were already slender due to new Cup rules. Meanwhile, Texas did great; they have an outstanding all-around sports program, and arguably could have done even better this year in several sports. I wish we could have kept this streak going, no doubt about it. But we got beat. Good work, Longhorns. We'll get you next year.

-m.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - terry - 06-15-2021

Stanford played in every NCAA women's volleyball tournament for 39 consecutive years, until this year. Women's volleyball is a mandatory sport in the Directors Cup scoring system. I'm just curious about how much impact the failure to qualify in volleyball had.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - CTcard - 06-15-2021

(06-15-2021, 03:25 PM)terry Wrote: How would the scoring have changed if our women's volleyball team had qualified for the tournament, and maybe won a couple rounds?

To actually answer your question ...

Stanford is 54.75 points behind Texas with only baseball remaining. Both are in the CWS (final 8).
To make up 55 points in volleyball, Stanford would have had to make it to the round of 16 (64 points).
Making it to the round of 32 would have been 50 points, which at least would have given Stanford a mathematical chance to pull it out in baseball.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - Phogge - 06-15-2021

What if?

They had called a penalty on the hit on Owusu in Eugene?
Luck had played in 2008?
Terry walked McCovey like Casey wanted?

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - BostonCard - 06-15-2021

Also, what if Stanford hadn't declined to participate in a bowl game? We would have gotten 45 points had we won (presuming we stayed unranked), and 25 points had we lost the bowl game.

45 points would have made it interesting.

Never mind, football is not a mandatory counting sport. So the answer is it would not have made a difference.

BC

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - CTcard - 06-15-2021

(06-15-2021, 05:10 PM)BostonCard Wrote: Also, what if Stanford hadn't declined to participate in a bowl game? We would have gotten 45 points had we won (presuming we stayed unranked), and 25 points had we lost the bowl game.

45 points would have made it interesting.

BC

Football is not a required counter, so would have displaced another sport at best. It might have helped if we had also become ranked, but wouldn't have got Stanford all that far by itself.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - BostonCard - 06-15-2021

Thanks, I realized the error of my ways and edited my post accordingly.

BC

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - 2006alum - 06-15-2021

If we had to lose the streak someday, hard to think of a better year than this year. It's riddled with asterisks anyway. And probably shows what sports I care about, but I'll take Tara getting that 30-year albatross off from around her neck, even if it came with losing our streak (especially since I care much more about the national championships streak).

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - murky - 06-15-2021

It seems fitting that we lose our title as best overall sports program the year that we announced we were dropping a bunch of sports citing insincere reasons.

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - 76lsjumb - 06-15-2021

Love her or hate her on a substantive basis -- and this post is intended to be completely and entirely neutral on that point -- I think a decent case can be made that Dr. Sara Cody deserves serious consideration as Texas' MVP this year...

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - fullmetal - 06-16-2021

I understand it's probably hard to recruit well enough to score decently in T&F, but where is Stanford in terms of historic T&F trends? Are we under or overperforming our usual T&F rankings? (Cause it seems like that's where Texas really put the hurt on us, but WVB didn't help, and neither did tennis...)

RE: Directors' Cup will be awarded for 2020-21 - BobK - 06-16-2021

The women almost won the track ncaas just a couple of years ago
Covid hurt. Like no coaching with athletes not on campus.
Covid hurt not some doctor and no it wasn’t a hoax

Congrats to Texas and their athletes and coaches