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RE: 76lsjumb - crackpot - 03-03-2024

(03-03-2024, 01:19 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:  Clark came close to a triple double: 30 points, 9 rebounds, and 13 whines…

Made my day, thanks!


RE: 76lsjumb - BillBradley - 03-03-2024

(03-03-2024, 01:36 PM)crackpot Wrote:  
(03-03-2024, 01:19 PM)76lsjumb Wrote:  Clark came close to a triple double: 30 points, 9 rebounds, and 13 whines…

Made my day, thanks!
FWIW, Cam does her share of whining too. It bugs me. She's smiles at the calls too, so it's less painful to watch, but she's still turning into the superstar whiner just like most of the rest of them. It happens in every sport - when players reach superstar status they use their influence on the refs by questioning EVERY call. In Cam's case, I think it's helped her. 

I'm so sick of watching Lebron play because of this single thing. And how about Luka? OMG. The worst. They all need to be more like Jokic so as fans we don't have to watch it. Blecchhh.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - qwerty49 - 03-03-2024

I only saw the 2nd half but what impressed me the most was that Iowa is not just Clark.  Their post is very agile and #24 can shoot.  And that guard #4 is very, very quick -- much quicker than anyone we have.  I didn't look at their heights but I have no idea who on our team would have the quickness and size to guard Clark.  Based on what I saw today, I don't think we would survive playing them in the tournament.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - M T - 03-03-2024

(03-03-2024, 03:05 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:  I only saw the 2nd half but what impressed me the most was that Iowa is not just Clark.  Their post is very agile and #24 can shoot.  And that guard #4 is very, very quick -- much quicker than anyone we have.  I didn't look at their heights but I have no idea who on our team would have the quickness and size to guard Clark.  Based on what I saw today, I don't think we would survive playing them in the tournament.

Green grass syndrome, I think.

#6 Iowa lost as many games as #4 Stanford (current rankings)
  11/19  58-65 #15     Kansas State    Clark: 24
  1/21   92-100 #2  @ Ohio State       Clark: 45
  2/11   79-82 (NR) @ Nebraska         Clark: 31
  2/22   69-86 #14  @ Indiana           Clark: 24

#4 Stanford
  12/3   78-96 @ #16 Gonzaga
  1/14   59-71 @ #13 Colorado
  2/2     58-67     #7 USC
  2/23   61-68  (NR) Arizona

WarrenNolan SOS ranks Stanford #2 and Iowa #21.   (Actually Stanford's opponents have a higher win percentage than SOS #1 So. Carolina.)


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - qwerty49 - 03-03-2024

(03-03-2024, 06:25 PM)M T Wrote:  
(03-03-2024, 03:05 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:  I only saw the 2nd half but what impressed me the most was that Iowa is not just Clark.  Their post is very agile and #24 can shoot.  And that guard #4 is very, very quick -- much quicker than anyone we have.  I didn't look at their heights but I have no idea who on our team would have the quickness and size to guard Clark.  Based on what I saw today, I don't think we would survive playing them in the tournament.

Green grass syndrome, I think.

#6 Iowa lost as many games as #4 Stanford (current rankings)
  11/19  58-65 #15     Kansas State    Clark: 24
  1/21   92-100 #2  @ Ohio State       Clark: 45
  2/11   79-82 (NR) @ Nebraska         Clark: 31
  2/22   69-86 #14  @ Indiana           Clark: 24

#4 Stanford
  12/3   78-96 @ #16 Gonzaga
  1/14   59-71 @ #13 Colorado
  2/2     58-67     #7 USC
  2/23   61-68  (NR) Arizona

WarrenNolan SOS ranks Stanford #2 and Iowa #21.   (Actually Stanford's opponents have a higher win percentage than SOS #1 So. Carolina.)

LOL do I wish we had Clark (or even #4) in our back court? Who wouldn’t.

We arguably have the best post tandem in the country. We’ll go as far as they can take us. It’s no secret that guard play is often the decider in the post-season, and that is our vulnerability.

The only green I see is a bit of envy.

And I’d love to see Maples packed like that.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - WBB fan - 03-04-2024

Wonderful article by Michelle Smith in "The Next" about her memories of covering Women's basketball in the Pac-12 for the SF Chron and elsewhere, and, in particular, her travels and interactions with the Stanford women's BB team. Really worth reading.

https://megdal.bluelena.io/lt.php?s=bfc8e505552657649195f477d056ebcb&i=2692A2700A2A63971


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - TheFarm07 - 03-04-2024

(03-03-2024, 07:00 PM)qwerty49 Wrote:  LOL do I wish we had Clark (or even #4) in our back court? Who wouldn’t.

We arguably have the best post tandem in the country. We’ll go as far as they can take us. It’s no secret that guard play is often the decider in the post-season, and that is our vulnerability.

The only green I see is a bit of envy.

And I’d love to see Maples packed like that.

Who wouldn't want to have Clark on their team? She's virtually unguardable in the college women's game, someone who has unmatched range but also the wherewithal to find the open teammate as well.

Putting her aside for a moment, I agree that our frontcourt duo of Brink and Iriafen should be at among the best, if not the best. 

I also concur that our guard play is a relative weakness. If we had gotten one of the ND guards (Miles, Citron, Hidalgo) or one of the UCLA guards (Osborne, Jones, Rice), I would argue that we wouldn't have 4 losses on our record and we would be seen as the chief challenger to South Carolina.

In some aspects, this team reminds me of the 2011-12 team during Nneka's senior year. With Pohlen and Pedersen graduating the previous year, the clear superstars and leaders were the Ogwumike sisters much like Brink and Iriafen. They also had a capable supporting cast (Orrange, Tinkle, Kokenis, among others) and they had an extremely successful run into a fifth consecutive Final Four. But I fear much like that season, a team will be able to negate anyone not named Brink or Iriafen to secure the win much like Baylor did in the national semis.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - 81alum - 03-04-2024

(03-04-2024, 12:31 AM)WBB fan Wrote:  Wonderful article by Michelle Smith in "The Next" about her memories of covering Women's basketball in the Pac-12 for the SF Chron and elsewhere, and, in particular, her travels and interactions with the Stanford women's BB team.  Really worth reading.

https://megdal.bluelena.io/lt.php?s=bfc8e505552657649195f477d056ebcb&i=2692A2700A2A63971
Yes indeed!  Wouldn't we love to have her write a book about this, maybe after Tara retires:

Quote:I’ll never forget Maples Pavilion. The floor used to bounce (it doesn’t anymore) and I used to have a courtside seat two chairs down from Stanford head coach Tara VanDerveer as she coached her teams.  I heard things I never wrote and would never have written. I heard things that made me understand the game, the players’ experience, and VanDerveer’s genius at a higher level.



RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - WBB fan - 03-04-2024

Stanford is #2 in this week's AP poll. Ugh! The ranking that week after week has been followed by a loss, seems to carry a curse.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - BobK - 03-04-2024

Of course we could lose Farm. It’s a game and the other team wants to win also
However what a difference from last season as in happy women winning. Enjoy the ride it’s been fun and we here all hope it continues


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - M T - 03-04-2024

(03-04-2024, 10:42 AM)BobK Wrote:  Of course we could lose Farm.  It’s a game and the other team wants to win also
However what a difference from last season as in happy women winning.  Enjoy the ride it’s been fun and we here all hope it continues

+1
A kinder, wiser viewpoint.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - qwerty49 - 03-04-2024

(03-04-2024, 11:34 AM)M T Wrote:  
(03-04-2024, 10:42 AM)BobK Wrote:  Of course we could lose Farm.  It’s a game and the other team wants to win also
However what a difference from last season as in happy women winning.  Enjoy the ride it’s been fun and we here all hope it continues

+1
A kinder, wiser viewpoint.

BobK has always been kinder.  :)


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - StanfordMatt - 03-04-2024

I don't have the bandwidth to follow WBB much pre-NCAAT but came across this article today which I figured would be of interest to many:

https://www.thenexthoops.com/ncaaw/coaches-poll-best-xs-and-os-coach/


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - CompSci87 - 03-04-2024

(03-04-2024, 02:51 PM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  I don't have the bandwidth to follow WBB much pre-NCAAT but came across this article today which I figured would be of interest to many:

https://www.thenexthoops.com/ncaaw/coaches-poll-best-xs-and-os-coach/

Wow, a landslide win there for Tara.

I wonder what the UConn fan board will say if they see the article.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - qwerty49 - 03-04-2024

(03-04-2024, 04:05 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  
(03-04-2024, 02:51 PM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  I don't have the bandwidth to follow WBB much pre-NCAAT but came across this article today which I figured would be of interest to many:

https://www.thenexthoops.com/ncaaw/coaches-poll-best-xs-and-os-coach/

Wow, a landslide win there for Tara.

I wonder what the UConn fan board will say if they see the article.

Let's see how he rates in recruiting next week.  I'm guessing Staley might be the leader on that one.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - Hoops9092 - 03-05-2024

I imagine in the next few days we will hear of the Pac-12 awards. Any thoughts? Likely Juju takes home both player and freshman of the year, first in 20 years since our Candice Wiggins did it.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - 81alum - 03-05-2024

(03-05-2024, 11:52 AM)Hoops9092 Wrote:  I imagine in the next few days we will hear of the Pac-12 awards. Any thoughts? Likely Juju takes home both player and freshman of the year, first in 20 years since our Candice Wiggins did it.
I think Brink has a chance, due to the "both ends of the floor" argument.  Juju has scored more, but Brink is a more complete player--as Juju will probably become in time.


Class_of_75 - Class_of_75 - 03-05-2024

https://pac-12.com/article/2024/03/04/2023-24-pac-12-womens-basketball-all-conference-honors-and-annual-performance


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - 81alum - 03-05-2024

(03-04-2024, 04:05 PM)CompSci87 Wrote:  
(03-04-2024, 02:51 PM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  I don't have the bandwidth to follow WBB much pre-NCAAT but came across this article today which I figured would be of interest to many:

https://www.thenexthoops.com/ncaaw/coaches-poll-best-xs-and-os-coach/

Wow, a landslide win there for Tara.

I wonder what the UConn fan board will say if they see the article.
Is this an annual survey?  I seem to remember something very similar in the past...also with Tara and Walz at the top of the list, but with a lot more quotations from anonymous coaches explaining why.


RE: WBB 2023-2024 Season - BobK - 03-05-2024

Congrats to Cam POY and Defensive POY
Congrats Kiki most improved
brobdingnagian Congrats Tara. Coach of the Year