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RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - PVTree - 06-12-2023

I'm glad we beat the Steers. Their fans were getting on my nerves with their hand gesture.

I was surprised Bruno came in so early. Wasn't surprised he walked a batter. Surprised he walked him in four pitches. Very surprised he was removed after the four pitch walk to the first batter he faced. Not surprised he was not very happy.

He walked (seemingly) angrily to the Stanford bullpen. Esquer followed him there. After about a minute, Bruno walked back to the dugout to join his teammates. 

I'm fairly certain Esquer had to calm Bruno down. I was envisioning Bruno quitting the team. He needs to regain his confidence if we are going to have any success in Omaha.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - M T - 06-12-2023

Bruno got burned by the call on the first pitch.  The 2nd pitch was ok, if a shade high.  But then it seemed that maybe his emotions got to him.  I don't know his demeanor previously, but by the way he walked off the field, I'm glad the coach took him out.  A pitcher has to forget the bad calls and deal with the current count and what the umpire is calling.  Especially at that point in the game.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Langdude - 06-12-2023

I'm guessing that the coaching staff agreed to remove Bruno if he walked the first batter. Clearly, he is a very emotional player, and it could spiral quickly, as we've seen.

I still would like someone to tell me why they think Pancer was taken out. It's not like we have a plethora of great arms behind him, and he was pitching fine. Was it because of all the lefties coming up?

-m.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - JJJ - 06-13-2023

What are the chances the team votes to wear the black unis the rest of the way this season, Omaha sun be damned? I would. :)

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - JJJ - 06-13-2023

(06-12-2023, 08:54 PM)Hieronymus Wrote:  
(06-12-2023, 08:51 PM)newguy Wrote:  ok i got a question for you guys.
did this really happen?

I truly have no idea how 4 guys for Texas all lose that ball. But nobody ended up even near it. So apparently yes that did happen. Somehow.
I believe the SS knew exactly where the ball was but he was too far away. The other three (2B, CF, RF) had no idea.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - OutsiderFan - 06-13-2023

LOL, I knew my brain was foggy last night. Saw the Rios not HR again and realize I was confused by the netting placement! Tired and aging eyes can play tricks on you…

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - GK3 - 06-13-2023

(06-12-2023, 11:12 PM)M T Wrote:  Bruno got burned by the call on the first pitch.  The 2nd pitch was ok, if a shade high.  But then it seemed that maybe his emotions got to him.  I don't know his demeanor previously, but by the way he walked off the field, I'm glad the coach took him out.  A pitcher has to forget the bad calls and deal with the current count and what the umpire is calling.  Especially at that point in the game.
Pitching seems a lot like golf.  You have to forget the last pitch or the last shot and move on. Coach certainly didn't want a repeat of game one.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - terry - 06-13-2023

Stanford, the #8 seed, opens the CWS against #1 seed Wake Forest on Saturday at 11 a.m. PDT.

The other teams in Stanford's side of bracket are #5 seed LSU and Tennessee (unseeded, ranked #26).

The other side of the bracket includes # 2 seed Florida, #7 seed Virginia, TCU (unseeded, ranked #23), and Oral Roberts (unseeded, ranked #10).

Note: These rankings come from Collegiate Baseball's last pre-tournament poll dated May 29. Other polls are similar, except that Oral Roberts was unranked by Baseball America and D1Baseball.com

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - terry - 06-13-2023

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rcb05/status/1668588536306565125[/tweet]
Question -- In one of the games against Texas A&M, the 3rd baseman lost track of a pop-up. Is this a problem at Sunken Diamond in particular, or is it just the general combination of twilight, artificial lights, cloud conditions, and very high pop-ups?

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - BobK - 06-13-2023

Never before a problem in my many years of evening games
Sure once in a great while

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - StanfordMatt - 06-13-2023

(06-13-2023, 09:08 AM)terry Wrote:  [tweet]https://twitter.com/rcb05/status/1668588536306565125[/tweet]

Question -- In one of the games against Texas A&M, the 3rd baseman lost track of a pop-up. Is this a problem at Sunken Diamond in particular, or is it just the general combination of twilight, artificial lights, cloud conditions, and very high pop-ups?

I was curious about this, too. Lots of Horns fans on social media complaining about the lights at Sunken being downward facing and thus not illuminating a ball that's hit above them. Some blaming it on a supposed CA law that prohibits upward facing lights. Sour grapes for sure but it did make me wonder if there's anything different about the lights at Sunken as opposed to other baseball stadiums.

spike - Spike - 06-13-2023

My theory is that the sun filtering through the trees at sunset made it impossible for us on the first base line to know whether or not Rios’ non- homer went over the fence. 
And on the last play the shortstop facing out had no problem tracking the ball while the other three facing in lost it.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - needle - 06-13-2023

Somebody on twitter claimed that Stanford replaced the lighting a few years back, with the “new” lights only facing downward. No idea if that is true or not.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - M T - 06-13-2023

While I appreciate the clean look of a white baseball, is there any particular advantage of that color over, say, the orange used in safety vests?  (Consider the yellow softball.)

Obviously, you don't change a tradition over one lost ball, but at some point it could be considered. 

Another alternative would be to design a device to track the ball and illuminate it with a laser or other strong light  But then you have the problem of when the laser is turned on and when it is turned off.

I don't recall seeing an announcement about the different field light design at Stanford, but I understand why they would be used.   I noticed how different they looked, but I don't know how different they make the ball look. Baseball field lights do seem to be an egregious source of light pollution.  Stanford has quite a few outdoor facilities that are lit at night.

Food for thought:
Light pollution: A review of the scientific literature
11 Pressing Research Questions on How Light Pollution Affects Biodiversity


When I looked for laws, nothing jumped out. (A bill to control lighting on state buildings was vetoed by the governor in the last year.)  One site's list of of local light pollution laws shows none applicable.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - StanfordMatt - 06-13-2023

(06-13-2023, 10:35 AM)M T Wrote:  I don't recall seeing an announcement about the different field light design at Stanford, but I understand why they would be used.   I noticed how different they looked, but I don't know how different they make the ball look. Baseball field lights do seem to be an egregious source of light pollution.

Hate to say it but IF that is the case then there really shouldn’t be night games played at Sunken. Light pollution or not, lost fly balls and pop ups in the night sky should not be a common occurrence for any team.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Bruce Wang - 06-13-2023

Personally I enjoyed the ending as it reminded me of mini-me and his little league teammates in their unadulterated joy, their fielding that needs improvement, and the crying.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Blue Hawk (Mizzou) Card - 06-13-2023

Re "Stanford has quite a few outdoor facilities that are lit at night."

I am so old that I was a student when none of our sports facilities  had lights. Friday baseball games were in the afternoon. No lights at Stanford Stadium (though they trucked in temporary lights a couple years after I graduated to televise a night football game).

This morning, I am gleeful that some Stanford adminstrator had the foresight  to install lights just to do in our mortal enemies from Texas. Who was that brilliant person, anyway?

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - BobK - 06-13-2023

The lights were originally donated by former players Jack McDowell and Steve Buechele

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - M T - 06-13-2023

The NCAA's Baseball Rules do not set any standard for lighting.  As best I can tell, the only rule is that the umpire can suspend play if light conditions are unfit for play.

Lighting companies give information about lighting for MLB fields.  One indicates light polls are 100 to 180 feet tall.  At Petco Park, two poles are 205' tall with the others at 190'.

A similar situation is domed stadiums where hitting the roof or other structures is somewhat similar to the ball getting above the lights.  In 1974, an expected homer hit a speaker 117 feet above the field in the Astrodome.
Georgia Dome - 83.8 m (275 feet)
Skydome - 43.3 m (142 feet)
Astrodome - 63.4 m (208 feet)
Kingdome - 76.2 m (250 feet)
Superdome - 77.1 m (253 feet)


All right, geeks out there:  Someone with a recording of the game, count the frames from the bat hitting the ball and the ball hitting the ground.  Let's figure out how high that ball went. If it was higher than the lights, how long was it higher?

Stanford can probably tell us how high the lights are, and maybe more detail.  Is the height limited (because of the Palo Alto airport or other reasons)?

Is it likely that college players hit balls higher than pros (because of metal bats)?

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - TonyLima - 06-13-2023

(06-13-2023, 09:26 AM)BobK Wrote:  Never before a problem in my many  years of evening games
Sure once in a great while

Best observation so far on this topic.
(06-13-2023, 10:56 AM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  
(06-13-2023, 10:35 AM)M T Wrote:  I don't recall seeing an announcement about the different field light design at Stanford, but I understand why they would be used.   I noticed how different they looked, but I don't know how different they make the ball look. Baseball field lights do seem to be an egregious source of light pollution.

Hate to say it but IF that is the case then there really shouldn’t be night games played at Sunken. Light pollution or not, lost fly balls and pop ups in the night sky should not be a common occurrence for any team.

As BobK observed, it’s not common.