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burger - 01-23-2012
Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
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burger - 01-23-2012
Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
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burger - 01-23-2012
Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
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wyattp - 01-23-2012
(01-23-2012, 10:49 AM)burger link Wrote:Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
I think most of us are still licking the wounds from last night....
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wyattp - 01-23-2012
(01-23-2012, 10:49 AM)burger link Wrote:Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
I think most of us are still licking the wounds from last night....
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wyattp - 01-23-2012
(01-23-2012, 10:49 AM)burger link Wrote:Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
I think most of us are still licking the wounds from last night....
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washingtonismoney - 01-23-2012
(01-23-2012, 10:49 AM)burger link Wrote:Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
Don't you think it's weird that both the Niners and Cardinal were undone by (more-or-less) the same problem: the lack of a gamebreaking wide receiver?
It's hard for me to be too bitter about the game: I figured it'd take Harbaugh two years to have the team anywhere near this good.
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washingtonismoney - 01-23-2012
(01-23-2012, 10:49 AM)burger link Wrote:Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
Don't you think it's weird that both the Niners and Cardinal were undone by (more-or-less) the same problem: the lack of a gamebreaking wide receiver?
It's hard for me to be too bitter about the game: I figured it'd take Harbaugh two years to have the team anywhere near this good.
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washingtonismoney - 01-23-2012
(01-23-2012, 10:49 AM)burger link Wrote:Aren't any Niners fans going to weigh in on the game? Congrats to the Niners for a great season and a great game. Looking forward to seeing the Giants chase Brady around the backfield like you guys chased Eli around last night.
Don't you think it's weird that both the Niners and Cardinal were undone by (more-or-less) the same problem: the lack of a gamebreaking wide receiver?
It's hard for me to be too bitter about the game: I figured it'd take Harbaugh two years to have the team anywhere near this good.
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FarmBoy - 01-23-2012
My take is that the 9ers couldn't recover from Smith's failures. In the end, the QB needs to make 1-2 plays at the end of the game (you know, like convert a 3rd down!) and Smith couldn't get it done. Smith is better than he showed last night, but not as good as he showed against New Orleans.
The game also showed why players from ASU shouldn't be relied upon at critical game moments (thanks Kyle Williams.) It's amazing how defense and offense dominates the headlines, but Special teams decide the outcome in so many games.
The games yesterday also reaffirmed that Jordan Williamson isn't some dufus without skill, as a lot of non Stanford followers think. The reality is that even in the NFL, kickers miss "gimmes" and the role of kicker has got to be one of the most painful in sports.
It will be interesting to see how the team rebounds in the off season. Was this season a fluke? Can Harbaugh, Fangio and Roman continue to "manufacture" wins with a weak passing game?
One other point I've been mulling over recently: Harbaugh's success makes me a bit nervous for the Stanford program future. If Harbaugh is really THAT good, are we in for a let down once his players and the attitude he created gets diluted? I'm optimistic about the Shaw regime, but Harbaugh's amazing turn around of the team has planted some seeds of concern.
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FarmBoy - 01-23-2012
My take is that the 9ers couldn't recover from Smith's failures. In the end, the QB needs to make 1-2 plays at the end of the game (you know, like convert a 3rd down!) and Smith couldn't get it done. Smith is better than he showed last night, but not as good as he showed against New Orleans.
The game also showed why players from ASU shouldn't be relied upon at critical game moments (thanks Kyle Williams.) It's amazing how defense and offense dominates the headlines, but Special teams decide the outcome in so many games.
The games yesterday also reaffirmed that Jordan Williamson isn't some dufus without skill, as a lot of non Stanford followers think. The reality is that even in the NFL, kickers miss "gimmes" and the role of kicker has got to be one of the most painful in sports.
It will be interesting to see how the team rebounds in the off season. Was this season a fluke? Can Harbaugh, Fangio and Roman continue to "manufacture" wins with a weak passing game?
One other point I've been mulling over recently: Harbaugh's success makes me a bit nervous for the Stanford program future. If Harbaugh is really THAT good, are we in for a let down once his players and the attitude he created gets diluted? I'm optimistic about the Shaw regime, but Harbaugh's amazing turn around of the team has planted some seeds of concern.
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FarmBoy - 01-23-2012
My take is that the 9ers couldn't recover from Smith's failures. In the end, the QB needs to make 1-2 plays at the end of the game (you know, like convert a 3rd down!) and Smith couldn't get it done. Smith is better than he showed last night, but not as good as he showed against New Orleans.
The game also showed why players from ASU shouldn't be relied upon at critical game moments (thanks Kyle Williams.) It's amazing how defense and offense dominates the headlines, but Special teams decide the outcome in so many games.
The games yesterday also reaffirmed that Jordan Williamson isn't some dufus without skill, as a lot of non Stanford followers think. The reality is that even in the NFL, kickers miss "gimmes" and the role of kicker has got to be one of the most painful in sports.
It will be interesting to see how the team rebounds in the off season. Was this season a fluke? Can Harbaugh, Fangio and Roman continue to "manufacture" wins with a weak passing game?
One other point I've been mulling over recently: Harbaugh's success makes me a bit nervous for the Stanford program future. If Harbaugh is really THAT good, are we in for a let down once his players and the attitude he created gets diluted? I'm optimistic about the Shaw regime, but Harbaugh's amazing turn around of the team has planted some seeds of concern.
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Card Fan in OR - 01-23-2012
Some observations from an unsophisticated football family watching the end of the game:
- Alex Smith is no Andrew Luck. My son and I agreed. The wife cautioned us to wait a few years.
- Son and I agreed, while we were very unhappy with the outcome, it was 5% as painful as the ending of the Fiesta Bowl. At least he has his loyalties right.
- Poor Kyle Williams.
- Harbaugh is, indeed, a great coach. Son and I questioned the call about midway through the fourth quarter when the 49ers had the ball around midfield at 4th and 1. They punted. We thought they should have gone for it. Not sure I recall, but I think the 49ers has a small lead at that point. neither of us is paid a cent for our opinions, though. I share Farmboy's concern that our own rise to elite program status not be a Harbaugh phenomenon and persists with Shaw.
I just loved that the first person I saw interviewed (Well, the only one, actually) after the game was the kicker Tynes. Always the goat, seldom the hero. Great for a kicker to get his moment. Interesting that he said he was really nervous the whole game. Pro kickers really show what being "pro" means. Great for him.
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Card Fan in OR - 01-23-2012
Some observations from an unsophisticated football family watching the end of the game:
- Alex Smith is no Andrew Luck. My son and I agreed. The wife cautioned us to wait a few years.
- Son and I agreed, while we were very unhappy with the outcome, it was 5% as painful as the ending of the Fiesta Bowl. At least he has his loyalties right.
- Poor Kyle Williams.
- Harbaugh is, indeed, a great coach. Son and I questioned the call about midway through the fourth quarter when the 49ers had the ball around midfield at 4th and 1. They punted. We thought they should have gone for it. Not sure I recall, but I think the 49ers has a small lead at that point. neither of us is paid a cent for our opinions, though. I share Farmboy's concern that our own rise to elite program status not be a Harbaugh phenomenon and persists with Shaw.
I just loved that the first person I saw interviewed (Well, the only one, actually) after the game was the kicker Tynes. Always the goat, seldom the hero. Great for a kicker to get his moment. Interesting that he said he was really nervous the whole game. Pro kickers really show what being "pro" means. Great for him.
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Card Fan in OR - 01-23-2012
Some observations from an unsophisticated football family watching the end of the game:
- Alex Smith is no Andrew Luck. My son and I agreed. The wife cautioned us to wait a few years.
- Son and I agreed, while we were very unhappy with the outcome, it was 5% as painful as the ending of the Fiesta Bowl. At least he has his loyalties right.
- Poor Kyle Williams.
- Harbaugh is, indeed, a great coach. Son and I questioned the call about midway through the fourth quarter when the 49ers had the ball around midfield at 4th and 1. They punted. We thought they should have gone for it. Not sure I recall, but I think the 49ers has a small lead at that point. neither of us is paid a cent for our opinions, though. I share Farmboy's concern that our own rise to elite program status not be a Harbaugh phenomenon and persists with Shaw.
I just loved that the first person I saw interviewed (Well, the only one, actually) after the game was the kicker Tynes. Always the goat, seldom the hero. Great for a kicker to get his moment. Interesting that he said he was really nervous the whole game. Pro kickers really show what being "pro" means. Great for him.
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fullmetal - 01-23-2012
^^Jordan Williamson, btw.
Michael Crabtree was supposed to be a game-breaking WR coming out of college.
4th and 1 in a "safe" situation is the best time to go for it (esp in a hurry-up situation) if you can catch the defense off-guard.
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fullmetal - 01-23-2012
^^Jordan Williamson, btw.
Michael Crabtree was supposed to be a game-breaking WR coming out of college.
4th and 1 in a "safe" situation is the best time to go for it (esp in a hurry-up situation) if you can catch the defense off-guard.
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fullmetal - 01-23-2012
^^Jordan Williamson, btw.
Michael Crabtree was supposed to be a game-breaking WR coming out of college.
4th and 1 in a "safe" situation is the best time to go for it (esp in a hurry-up situation) if you can catch the defense off-guard.
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Farm93 - 01-23-2012
It is worth noting that both championship games came down to very short FG attempts.
The Ravens could have pushed more aggressively and thrown down the middle to score a TD as the fourth quarter closed out. Instead they opted for 2 safe throws to the sidelines. Both were defended well by the Patriots. So the Ravens settled for a short FG to go to OT. Oddly, the kicker was a bit late and had to run down to his spot. The kicker then missed, and the players were stunned. Note: That missed FG stuff even happens in the pros.
The Giants could have easily pushed the ball in for a TD in OT. But instead "settled" for a 26 yard FG attempt. After a 5 yard delay of game penalty, that the staff was almost indifferent about, the kick became a 31 yard attempt. Rather than running again to try to get some of that back, the Giants elected to still stay with the kicker and attempt a 31 yard kick. The FG attempt was outside, on a wet surface, in the rain, and with a significant wind. But the Giants thought trusting their kicker was better than trusting Jacobs and/or Manning. Giants win, kicker is a hero for making a really easy kick.
If the Giants miss the kick, perhaps people wonder why the coach didn't try harder for a TD and/or why they didn't call timeout to avoid the 5 yard penalty. That's the game though, and it is often won and lost with the kicker.
Stanford and both Harbaughs were on the wrong side of the kicker fortunes this year. Still the Ravens, 9ers and Stanford all had great years, just not quite the endings they wanted.
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Farm93 - 01-23-2012
It is worth noting that both championship games came down to very short FG attempts.
The Ravens could have pushed more aggressively and thrown down the middle to score a TD as the fourth quarter closed out. Instead they opted for 2 safe throws to the sidelines. Both were defended well by the Patriots. So the Ravens settled for a short FG to go to OT. Oddly, the kicker was a bit late and had to run down to his spot. The kicker then missed, and the players were stunned. Note: That missed FG stuff even happens in the pros.
The Giants could have easily pushed the ball in for a TD in OT. But instead "settled" for a 26 yard FG attempt. After a 5 yard delay of game penalty, that the staff was almost indifferent about, the kick became a 31 yard attempt. Rather than running again to try to get some of that back, the Giants elected to still stay with the kicker and attempt a 31 yard kick. The FG attempt was outside, on a wet surface, in the rain, and with a significant wind. But the Giants thought trusting their kicker was better than trusting Jacobs and/or Manning. Giants win, kicker is a hero for making a really easy kick.
If the Giants miss the kick, perhaps people wonder why the coach didn't try harder for a TD and/or why they didn't call timeout to avoid the 5 yard penalty. That's the game though, and it is often won and lost with the kicker.
Stanford and both Harbaughs were on the wrong side of the kicker fortunes this year. Still the Ravens, 9ers and Stanford all had great years, just not quite the endings they wanted.