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Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - ceece - 12-23-2011

well, there was one from my San Mateo County high school class (mid 80s), unless she was fibbing about where she actually got in.

I think it was a financial issue for her, since this was back when U C cost about $2000 per year.

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - ceece - 12-23-2011

well, there was one from my San Mateo County high school class (mid 80s), unless she was fibbing about where she actually got in.

I think it was a financial issue for her, since this was back when U C cost about $2000 per year.

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - JohnR34231 - 12-23-2011

(12-22-2011, 10:00 PM)fullers link Wrote:"Does anyone know anyone..."

Last year Brennan Scarlett was accepted by Stanford, but he committed to School near Oakland. It does happen...

"[Aziz's coach] and California recruiters have convinced Aziz that though California has a lower entrance standard for athletes than Stanford, it is just as if not more academically rigorous than Stanford."

Hmm... it's good to hear the Aziz's coach is letting Aziz decide what is best for himself without letting his (the coach's) biased opinion influence Aziz.... Not.

Sounds a bit hypocritical because I'm sure they try to convince their not-so-academically oriented recruits (like most of them)  that the academics really aren't that tough.

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - JohnR34231 - 12-23-2011

(12-22-2011, 10:00 PM)fullers link Wrote:"Does anyone know anyone..."

Last year Brennan Scarlett was accepted by Stanford, but he committed to School near Oakland. It does happen...

"[Aziz's coach] and California recruiters have convinced Aziz that though California has a lower entrance standard for athletes than Stanford, it is just as if not more academically rigorous than Stanford."

Hmm... it's good to hear the Aziz's coach is letting Aziz decide what is best for himself without letting his (the coach's) biased opinion influence Aziz.... Not.

Sounds a bit hypocritical because I'm sure they try to convince their not-so-academically oriented recruits (like most of them)  that the academics really aren't that tough.

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - OutsiderFan - 12-23-2011

(12-23-2011, 07:15 AM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=fullers link=topic=5222.msg37932#msg37932 date=1324616402]
"Does anyone know anyone..."

Last year Brennan Scarlett was accepted by Stanford, but he committed to School near Oakland. It does happen...

"[Aziz's coach] and California recruiters have convinced Aziz that though California has a lower entrance standard for athletes than Stanford, it is just as if not more academically rigorous than Stanford."

Hmm... it's good to hear the Aziz's coach is letting Aziz decide what is best for himself without letting his (the coach's) biased opinion influence Aziz.... Not.

Sounds a bit hypocritical because I'm sure they try to convince their not-so-academically oriented recruits (like most of them)  that the academics really aren't that tough.
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What I think they do is say the school is tough, but some majors are easier than others (which is absolutely true), and they let the guys choose what they want.  A lot end up in Social Welfare, American Studies, and similar majors, which are not all that challenging.  But there are Poli Sci, Econ, Business, Engineering, CSEE, and other rigorous majors taken by football players at California, and Shittu is a would be Engineering major of some sort, as I understand it.

I know of a softball recruit that was admitted to Stanford and chose California instead.  It is admittedly rare, but it does happen on occasion. 

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - OutsiderFan - 12-23-2011

(12-23-2011, 07:15 AM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=fullers link=topic=5222.msg37932#msg37932 date=1324616402]
"Does anyone know anyone..."

Last year Brennan Scarlett was accepted by Stanford, but he committed to School near Oakland. It does happen...

"[Aziz's coach] and California recruiters have convinced Aziz that though California has a lower entrance standard for athletes than Stanford, it is just as if not more academically rigorous than Stanford."

Hmm... it's good to hear the Aziz's coach is letting Aziz decide what is best for himself without letting his (the coach's) biased opinion influence Aziz.... Not.

Sounds a bit hypocritical because I'm sure they try to convince their not-so-academically oriented recruits (like most of them)  that the academics really aren't that tough.
[/quote]
What I think they do is say the school is tough, but some majors are easier than others (which is absolutely true), and they let the guys choose what they want.  A lot end up in Social Welfare, American Studies, and similar majors, which are not all that challenging.  But there are Poli Sci, Econ, Business, Engineering, CSEE, and other rigorous majors taken by football players at California, and Shittu is a would be Engineering major of some sort, as I understand it.

I know of a softball recruit that was admitted to Stanford and chose California instead.  It is admittedly rare, but it does happen on occasion. 

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - OutsiderFan - 12-23-2011

(12-23-2011, 07:15 AM)JPRI link Wrote:[quote author=fullers link=topic=5222.msg37932#msg37932 date=1324616402]
"Does anyone know anyone..."

Last year Brennan Scarlett was accepted by Stanford, but he committed to School near Oakland. It does happen...

"[Aziz's coach] and California recruiters have convinced Aziz that though California has a lower entrance standard for athletes than Stanford, it is just as if not more academically rigorous than Stanford."

Hmm... it's good to hear the Aziz's coach is letting Aziz decide what is best for himself without letting his (the coach's) biased opinion influence Aziz.... Not.

Sounds a bit hypocritical because I'm sure they try to convince their not-so-academically oriented recruits (like most of them)  that the academics really aren't that tough.
[/quote]
What I think they do is say the school is tough, but some majors are easier than others (which is absolutely true), and they let the guys choose what they want.  A lot end up in Social Welfare, American Studies, and similar majors, which are not all that challenging.  But there are Poli Sci, Econ, Business, Engineering, CSEE, and other rigorous majors taken by football players at California, and Shittu is a would be Engineering major of some sort, as I understand it.

I know of a softball recruit that was admitted to Stanford and chose California instead.  It is admittedly rare, but it does happen on occasion. 

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - Farm93 - 12-23-2011

I am sure we could build a list of people (athletes and non-athletes) that have elected to go to all kinds of places even though they were admitted to Stanford.  Stanford's admit rate is closing in on 6%, but the yield rate is "only" around 70%.  That means that 3 in 10 that get accepted elect to go somewhere else.  Harvard's rate is in the high 70s, so still 2 in 10 go somewhere else.

I am sure many of the Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Yale types get admitted to multiple schools in that top tier, and that accounts for most of the yield (for non-athletes).  Still, there are probably a bunch of people that just elect other options, for all kinds of reasons.  For athletes the list of reasons would expand to include coaches, team playing style, sport popularity on campus, training resources, etc.

So many of the U  C  system's advantages in the 70s and 80s are not really applicable at this point, but I am sure there are some that prefer that grungy, overcrowded, semi-urban feel of Berkeley and C.a..l.

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - Farm93 - 12-23-2011

I am sure we could build a list of people (athletes and non-athletes) that have elected to go to all kinds of places even though they were admitted to Stanford.  Stanford's admit rate is closing in on 6%, but the yield rate is "only" around 70%.  That means that 3 in 10 that get accepted elect to go somewhere else.  Harvard's rate is in the high 70s, so still 2 in 10 go somewhere else.

I am sure many of the Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Yale types get admitted to multiple schools in that top tier, and that accounts for most of the yield (for non-athletes).  Still, there are probably a bunch of people that just elect other options, for all kinds of reasons.  For athletes the list of reasons would expand to include coaches, team playing style, sport popularity on campus, training resources, etc.

So many of the U  C  system's advantages in the 70s and 80s are not really applicable at this point, but I am sure there are some that prefer that grungy, overcrowded, semi-urban feel of Berkeley and C.a..l.

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - Farm93 - 12-23-2011

I am sure we could build a list of people (athletes and non-athletes) that have elected to go to all kinds of places even though they were admitted to Stanford.  Stanford's admit rate is closing in on 6%, but the yield rate is "only" around 70%.  That means that 3 in 10 that get accepted elect to go somewhere else.  Harvard's rate is in the high 70s, so still 2 in 10 go somewhere else.

I am sure many of the Harvard, Stanford, Princeton, Yale types get admitted to multiple schools in that top tier, and that accounts for most of the yield (for non-athletes).  Still, there are probably a bunch of people that just elect other options, for all kinds of reasons.  For athletes the list of reasons would expand to include coaches, team playing style, sport popularity on campus, training resources, etc.

So many of the U  C  system's advantages in the 70s and 80s are not really applicable at this point, but I am sure there are some that prefer that grungy, overcrowded, semi-urban feel of Berkeley and C.a..l.

Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - Nan3cy - 12-23-2011

If I remember correctly, there are about 2000 four-year colleges and universities in the US. There are no more than 20, and I think it may be fewer than 10, with a yield rate more than 50%. A yield rate of 70% is astronomical, especially in this day and age when the more ambitious kids tend to apply to 10 or more schools.


Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - Nan3cy - 12-23-2011

If I remember correctly, there are about 2000 four-year colleges and universities in the US. There are no more than 20, and I think it may be fewer than 10, with a yield rate more than 50%. A yield rate of 70% is astronomical, especially in this day and age when the more ambitious kids tend to apply to 10 or more schools.


Re: OT Nick Davidson commits - Nan3cy - 12-23-2011

If I remember correctly, there are about 2000 four-year colleges and universities in the US. There are no more than 20, and I think it may be fewer than 10, with a yield rate more than 50%. A yield rate of 70% is astronomical, especially in this day and age when the more ambitious kids tend to apply to 10 or more schools.