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RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - chrisk - 06-05-2023

Bring on Texas

spike - Spike - 06-05-2023

So when do we play?

RE: spike - cardfan77 - 06-05-2023

(06-05-2023, 09:04 PM)Spike Wrote:  So when do we play?

ESPN will let us know

RE: spike - Farm93 - 06-05-2023

(06-05-2023, 09:04 PM)Spike Wrote:  So when do we play?
Almost all super regionals will be in Eastern or Central time zones, so a good bet that Stanford will get the latest start times possible.

RE: spike - chrisk - 06-05-2023

(06-05-2023, 09:09 PM)Farm93 Wrote:  
(06-05-2023, 09:04 PM)Spike Wrote:  So when do we play?
Almost all super regionals will be in Eastern or Central time zones, so a good bet that Stanford will get the latest start times possible.
some series start on Friday and some start on Saturday

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - cardfan77 - 06-05-2023

Hopefully Oregon Super starts on Friday and Stanford’s super will start on Saturday. Give Matthews more time to rest and recover

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Madera86 - 06-05-2023

All Right Now! Who'da thunk that we'd hold our opponent to one run? Beautiful job from our bullpen. Hope Matthews arm isn't too sore. Rest up, my man. 

And how about the contributions from Campbell and Becerra? Love how Campbell stretched that hit into a triple.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - terry - 06-05-2023

That was an excellent comeback by Stanford, coming through the losers' bracket and winning three straight elimination games. Well done.

I was worried about Stanford's pitching, because you need a lot of guys to pitch well when you have to go through the losers' bracket. I was especially concerned after Texas A&M scored 4 runs in the first inning yesterday. But in the next 17 innings after that, Texas A&M scored only two runs. Stanford's pitching really rose to the occasion.

Now we face Texas. I've long has a dislike for Texas because of its long-time coach, Augie Garrido. He deliberately cheated to get around NCAA rules, and Texas barely even gave him a slap on the wrist. I know he's gone now, but I still don't like that program.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - TonyLima - 06-05-2023

That was a hell of a game. If you hsd Saborn Campbell on your bingo card for post-season heroics, you’re a big winner. His speed turned a sure double into a triple. One thing I’ll say for Esquer’s teams: they got no quit in ‘em.

Shouldn’t there be a rule that once you beat one team from Texas, you shouldn’t have to play another one?  Ah, well, see you whenever the TV gods decree.
(06-05-2023, 09:09 PM)Farm93 Wrote:  
(06-05-2023, 09:04 PM)Spike Wrote:  So when do we play?
Almost all super regionals will be in Eastern or Central time zones, so a good bet that Stanford will get the latest start times possible.

Excellent point.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Maple Leaf - 06-05-2023

(06-05-2023, 09:20 PM)cardfan77 Wrote:  Hopefully Oregon Super starts on Friday and Stanford’s super will start on Saturday. Give Matthews more time to rest and recover

Oregon will tell the ncaa/espn folks which start day they want and how much add time Nike will buy for that preferred start day, and how little add time Nike will buy if the quackers don't get what they want.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Madera86 - 06-05-2023

(06-05-2023, 09:59 PM)TonyLima Wrote:  That was a hell of a game. If you hsd Saborn Campbell on your bingo card for post-season heroics, you’re a big winner. His speed turned a sure double into a triple. One thing I’ll say for Esquer’s teams: they got no quit in ‘em.

Shouldn’t there be a rule that once you beat one team from Texas, you shouldn’t have to play another one?  


If we make it to the championship series, maybe we will meet TCU. ;)

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - fullmetal - 06-06-2023

(06-05-2023, 09:29 PM)terry Wrote:  That was an excellent comeback by Stanford, coming through the losers' bracket and winning three straight elimination games. Well done.

I was worried about Stanford's pitching, because you need a lot of guys to pitch well when you have to go through the losers' bracket. I was especially concerned after Texas A&M scored 4 runs in the first inning yesterday. But in the next 17 innings after that, Texas A&M scored only two runs. Stanford's pitching really rose to the occasion.

Now we face Texas. I've long has a dislike for Texas because of its long-time coach, Augie Garrido. He deliberately cheated to get around NCAA rules, and Texas barely even gave him a slap on the wrist. I know he's gone now, but I still don't like that program.

Agreed, and I have to hold my nose about it since I live around a lot of Texas fans.  It'll be a wildly successful season if Stanford can beat Texas and surpass them in Director's Cup points.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Baller4 - 06-06-2023

(06-04-2023, 01:30 PM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  Tom Emanski would have a heart attack watching this team. Just terrible fundamental baseball all year long. Terrible defense, poor base running and too many free passes from the pitching staff. It’s a shame that such a potent offense was wasted by these factors.

Eager has gotta go and Esquer needs to find a way to clean things up.

StanfordMatt, are you sure you are not trolling over here from the Bearinsider message board. You sound a lot like all the Esquer haters that were on that board who were talking trash, even during the 2011 season! 

Let me guess, you probably thought Rusty Filter should have been handed the keys to the car! Better yet, Stanford could have hired Mike Neu! I come from that board, only because my faith in what Esquer was doing at Cal, and now my complaints on where the Cal program is going today. Had someone on that board accuse me of being someone with Ballbuster as their handle. 

Stanford has hosted 5 out of the last 6 years with 2 CWS appearances and 3 Pac conference titles, and you think Esquer needs to go??? 
I wonder what your assessment is this morning??

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Farm93 - 06-06-2023

First Texas/Stanford game is on Saturday June 10 3PM PDT on ESPN2

I can only imagine that the Texas brand helped bring that game up.   Which will be great because Sunken Diamond simply looks better on TV during the day. 

Oregon starts on Friday and gets the Pac-12 later start times on ESPNU for Friday and Saturday.   I suspect ESPN believes Stanford/Texas has the potential to draw a greater national audience than Oregon/Oral Roberts.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - terry - 06-06-2023

(06-06-2023, 07:46 AM)Baller4 Wrote:  
(06-04-2023, 01:30 PM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  Tom Emanski would have a heart attack watching this team. Just terrible fundamental baseball all year long. Terrible defense, poor base running and too many free passes from the pitching staff. It’s a shame that such a potent offense was wasted by these factors.

Eager has gotta go and Esquer needs to find a way to clean things up.

StanfordMatt, are you sure you are not trolling over here from the Bearinsider message board. You sound a lot like all the Esquer haters that were on that board who were talking trash, even during the 2011 season! 

Let me guess, you probably thought Rusty Filter should have been handed the keys to the car! Better yet, Stanford could have hired Mike Neu! I come from that board, only because my faith in what Esquer was doing at Cal, and now my complaints on where the Cal program is going today. Had someone on that board accuse me of being someone with Ballbuster as their handle. 

Stanford has hosted 5 out of the last 6 years with 2 CWS appearances and 3 Pac conference titles, and you think Esquer needs to go??? 
I wonder what your assessment is this morning??

I understood StanfordMatt to be saying that Eager needs to go, not Esquer. Given the spotty performance of Stanford's pitching this year, I think it's fair to question whether the pitching coach is doing a good job. Stanford's team ERA ranks something like 140th nationally and 8th in the Pac-11. To be fair, the pitching did rise to the occasion against Texas A&M.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - BobK - 06-06-2023

The pitching yesterday was awesome. The biggest game of the year and the pitching awesome

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Maple Leaf - 06-06-2023

(06-06-2023, 08:37 AM)BobK Wrote:  The pitching yesterday was awesome. The biggest game of the year and the pitching awesome

The pitching and the general overall performance of the team improved after the loss to Texas A&M.  

I know nothing about coaching pitchers, but if the Stanford pitching coach was that bad then why did Mathews come back for his Senior year, or that Dugan has improved so much during the course of the season?

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - BobK - 06-06-2023

My thoughts exactly Maple Leaf Plus two top pitchers are signed.

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - Maple Leaf - 06-06-2023

Stanford starts Super Regional Play on Saturday at 3 PM on ESPN2/ESPN+

College Baseball Scoreboard | ESPN

RE: Stanford Baseball 2023 - CTcard - 06-06-2023

(06-06-2023, 08:07 AM)terry Wrote:  
(06-06-2023, 07:46 AM)Baller4 Wrote:  
(06-04-2023, 01:30 PM)StanfordMatt Wrote:  Tom Emanski would have a heart attack watching this team. Just terrible fundamental baseball all year long. Terrible defense, poor base running and too many free passes from the pitching staff. It’s a shame that such a potent offense was wasted by these factors.

Eager has gotta go and Esquer needs to find a way to clean things up.

StanfordMatt, are you sure you are not trolling over here from the Bearinsider message board. You sound a lot like all the Esquer haters that were on that board who were talking trash, even during the 2011 season! 

Let me guess, you probably thought Rusty Filter should have been handed the keys to the car! Better yet, Stanford could have hired Mike Neu! I come from that board, only because my faith in what Esquer was doing at Cal, and now my complaints on where the Cal program is going today. Had someone on that board accuse me of being someone with Ballbuster as their handle. 

Stanford has hosted 5 out of the last 6 years with 2 CWS appearances and 3 Pac conference titles, and you think Esquer needs to go??? 
I wonder what your assessment is this morning??

I understood StanfordMatt to be saying that Eager needs to go, not Esquer. Given the spotty performance of Stanford's pitching this year, I think it's fair to question whether the pitching coach is doing a good job. Stanford's team ERA ranks something like 140th nationally and 8th in the Pac-11. To be fair, the pitching did rise to the occasion against Texas A&M.

Given the state of Stanford pitching over the season, it is certainly fair to question whether the pitching coach is doing a good job or not. My personal view, given the lack of detailed information available to most everyone here, is that this is best done by raising questions and initiating discussion rather than calling for somebody's head. But, I also understand this is a fan message board and that's how it goes. 

It's clear that Stanford pitching overall was worse this year than in recent years. Given that the team has been excellent, it is an interesting question whether the ultimate performance of the pitching coach is poor because the overall pitching was poorer or good because he managed to maintain team excellence despite issues among the personnel available. 
A second question that arises given that many recent pitching staffs have been very good, is whether this poorer year is an abberration or a sign of the way things are going. 

Eager came to Stanford with Esquer prior to the 2018 season. 
Stanford pitching cumulative ERA:
2017: 3.35   (pre-Eager)
2018: 2.83
2019: 3.62
2020: 3.50   (shortened season, only 16 games)
2021: 4.64
2022: 4.23
2023: 5.83  (so far)
Note that ERAs have been up across the board in NCAA baseball, particularly just recently. Many rumors of a juiced ball. 

Some big issues this year:
- Losing Tommy O'Rourke for the year hurt the pitching staff. His ERA last year was between Dixon's and Dowd's. He wasn't used as much as either of those two, but was used about as much as Pancer. I am sure that if healthy he would have been a major contributor this year. 
- The current sophomore class has been a problem for pitching and that will continue. It was small to begin with, only having Uber, Montgomery (to the extent he's a pitcher) and nominally Jake Sapien (who I think has abandoned pitching). Uber had a pretty good freshman year and a poor sophomore year - though he has been battling injuries all season. 
This is a hole in the roster that is going to be tough to manage. 
- For comparison, the junior class has Brunox2, Dixon, Dowd, O'Rourke, Pancer. The frosh class has Dugan, Moore, O'Haran, Scott. 

Broadly, I don't see a systematic lack of development of guys though there is plenty of variation among individuals. 
There is certainly room for criticism of the recruitment for the HS class of 2022, in numbers if nothing else. 
Walks are rising, but I think the biggest negative change in a particular pitching stat versus last year is a big rise in HRs allowed. Last year was really good for this (0.55 per game), but not this year (1.27 per game). 

It's hard to get a pitching staff "ready" for the tournament as arms get tired as the season progresses whereas batters seem to improve timing with reps and warmer weather leads to the baseball carrying further. At least for one weekend, the Stanford pitching staff seemed to have been as ready as one could hope for given the parts available. That was very good.