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RE: 2022 Giants thread - DC 86 - 05-29-2022

(05-29-2022, 12:37 PM)BobK Wrote:  Back to baseball why was Bart the pitch runner yesterday?

Kapler didn't want to be left with an empty bench if the game went to extras.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - BostonCard - 05-29-2022

[tweet]https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1530874115439136769?s=21&t=4nOeRxgt0hS11cxIHj5oPw[/tweet]

Tommy LaRussa disagrees, as is his right.

BC


RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 05-29-2022

(05-29-2022, 01:15 PM)BostonCard Wrote:  [tweet]https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1530874115439136769?s=21&t=4nOeRxgt0hS11cxIHj5oPw[/tweet]

Tommy LaRussa disagrees, as is his right.

BC

Tony LaRussa is my second least liked manager of my lifetime. Tommy Lasorda, of course, is No1. Wonder why he felt the need to weigh in. Was he asked. Or, just doing his usual stir the pot BS.

I noticed Kapler was in the dugout hand over heart when God Bless America was sung before the 7th


RE: 2022 Giants thread - BostonCard - 05-29-2022

I think he was asked. The article quotes a couple other managers as well, so I have a feeling that reporters asked a bunch of managers for comment.

BC


RE: 2022 Giants thread - French Rage - 05-29-2022

(05-28-2022, 05:14 PM)cardcrimson Wrote:  
(05-28-2022, 09:51 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  He made a blog post that explained why he has decided to stay away from field for the national anthem, so anyone wondering where he is when anthem is played, would know and why. It was a personal decision, not some public grandstanding. He didn't want to make a spectacle of himself, but knew he had to provide an explanation so he could avoid any future questions on the topic.



Help me understand. He made a blog post so it's not public grandstanding or making a spectacle of himself hoping to avoid future questions on the topic. Seems like just the opposite. What am I missing?

People would get curious why the manager of a MLB team wasn't present.  He didn't want ongoing speculation or rumors.  So he made a quick post explaining the reason.  Short and sweet.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - BobK - 05-29-2022

Thanks DC but the bigger question no Giant pitcher can pinch run. That’s odd
To me


RE: 2022 Giants thread - DC 86 - 05-29-2022

(05-29-2022, 04:15 PM)BobK Wrote:  Thanks DC but the bigger question no Giant pitcher can pinch run.  That’s odd
To me

I thought the same thing at the time, that surely there is a pitcher who is a fast runner, but I assume they didn't want to deal with any injury risk.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 05-29-2022

(05-29-2022, 05:35 PM)DC 86 Wrote:  
(05-29-2022, 04:15 PM)BobK Wrote:  Thanks DC but the bigger question no Giant pitcher can pinch run.  That’s odd
To me

I thought the same thing at the time, that surely there is a pitcher who is a fast runner, but I assume they didn't want to deal with any injury risk.

Plus, it has to be a starting pitcher - Webb, Junis, Rodon were available (no way they use the next days starter ). None strike me as burners!


RE: 2022 Giants thread - DC 86 - 05-29-2022

(05-29-2022, 06:29 PM)lex24 Wrote:  Plus, it has to be a starting pitcher - Webb, Junis, Rodon were available (no way they use the next days starter ). None strike me as burners!

Rodon doubtful but I would actually bet on Webb and Junis outsprinting Casali. But Bart is surprisingly fast for a big man, it wasn't crazy to use him.


leftcoast - Leftcoast - 05-29-2022

Speaking of bench speed, isn’t Duggar due back sometime soon?


RE: 2022 Giants thread - Giants - 05-29-2022

June 20.  He is on the 60 day injured list.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - Mick - 05-29-2022

(05-29-2022, 12:37 PM)BobK Wrote:  Back to baseball why was Bart the pitch runner yesterday?  At Softback so missed the game.
Today we come from behind to win, like a team!  :)

Bart is the fifth fastest catcher in baseball.  But an average runner overall.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - OutsiderFan - 05-30-2022

Kapler wasn't seeking attention. His post was made for the reason I said, so when people wondered where he was for the anthem playing, they would know. He posted on his personal website, not the Giants' website.

One could say "look at all the attention he is getting over his decision." But there is a profound difference between other people making a big deal about something and you making a big deal about it yourself. "But he should know he will get attention by taking his action and making his statement."  So he's suppose to be held hostage by a segment of society that puts pressure on him to do something he doesn't want to do, just because a relative few people might be bothered if he doesn't?

Here's an idea. Mind your own business. Don't worry about what others are doing that doesn't personally harm you. The only time we ask people to do things that might be against their will is when they are in the greater interest of society write large, and protect people from being harmed. NOBODY is being harmed if a manager of a baseball team isn't present for a song being sung.  

Tempest in a teapot.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 05-30-2022

(05-30-2022, 05:22 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Kapler wasn't seeking attention. His post was made for the reason I said, so when people wondered where he was for the anthem playing, they would know. He posted on his personal website, not the Giants' website.

One could say "look at all the attention he is getting over his decision." But there is a profound difference between other people making a big deal about something and you making a big deal about it yourself. "But he should know he will get attention by taking his action and making his statement."  So he's suppose to be held hostage by a segment of society that puts pressure on him to do something he doesn't want to do, just because a relative few people might be bothered if he doesn't?

Here's an idea. Mind your own business. Don't worry about what others are doing that doesn't personally harm you. The only time we ask people to do things that might be against their will is when they are in the greater interest of society write large, and protect people from being harmed. NOBODY is being harmed if a manager of a baseball team isn't present for a song being sung.  

Tempest in a teapot.

Kapler made a statement.  He could have simply done his protest silently.  By making a point of  it, he is sure to draw reaction. Personally, I do think he made a “big deal out of it.”  In fact he weighed in again yesterday saying he “might” suspend it for Memorial Day.  

In todays world, no question he’d draw responses. Positive and negative. Social media is nothing if not prolific. And judgmental.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - cardcrimson - 05-30-2022

Loved Kapler's t-shirt yesterday while he was doing dugout interviews about his protest. "Strength isn't always physical". Sure, he's not calling attention to himself and his courageous take. . . .


RE: 2022 Giants thread - French Rage - 05-30-2022

(05-30-2022, 08:53 AM)lex24 Wrote:  
(05-30-2022, 05:22 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Kapler wasn't seeking attention. His post was made for the reason I said, so when people wondered where he was for the anthem playing, they would know. He posted on his personal website, not the Giants' website.

One could say "look at all the attention he is getting over his decision." But there is a profound difference between other people making a big deal about something and you making a big deal about it yourself. "But he should know he will get attention by taking his action and making his statement."  So he's suppose to be held hostage by a segment of society that puts pressure on him to do something he doesn't want to do, just because a relative few people might be bothered if he doesn't?

Here's an idea. Mind your own business. Don't worry about what others are doing that doesn't personally harm you. The only time we ask people to do things that might be against their will is when they are in the greater interest of society write large, and protect people from being harmed. NOBODY is being harmed if a manager of a baseball team isn't present for a song being sung.  

Tempest in a teapot.

Kapler made a statement.  He could have simply done his protest silently.  By making a point of  it, he is sure to draw reaction.  Personally, I do think he made a “big deal out of it.”  In fact he weighed in again yesterday saying he “might” suspend it for Memorial Day.  

In todays world, no question he’d draw responses.  Positive and negative.  Social media is nothing if not prolific.  And judgmental.

So if he would draw a response he shouldn't do it?

He's trying to elicit as little a response as possible, given his position.


lex24 - lex24 - 05-30-2022

(05-30-2022, 11:18 AM)French Rage Wrote:  
(05-30-2022, 08:53 AM)lex24 Wrote:  
(05-30-2022, 05:22 AM)OutsiderFan Wrote:  Kapler wasn't seeking attention. His post was made for the reason I said, so when people wondered where he was for the anthem playing, they would know. He posted on his personal website, not the Giants' website.

One could say "look at all the attention he is getting over his decision." But there is a profound difference between other people making a big deal about something and you making a big deal about it yourself. "But he should know he will get attention by taking his action and making his statement."  So he's suppose to be held hostage by a segment of society that puts pressure on him to do something he doesn't want to do, just because a relative few people might be bothered if he doesn't?

Here's an idea. Mind your own business. Don't worry about what others are doing that doesn't personally harm you. The only time we ask people to do things that might be against their will is when they are in the greater interest of society write large, and protect people from being harmed. NOBODY is being harmed if a manager of a baseball team isn't present for a song being sung.  

Tempest in a teapot.

Kapler made a statement.  He could have simply done his protest silently.  By making a point of  it, he is sure to draw reaction.  Personally, I do think he made a “big deal out of it.”  In fact he weighed in again yesterday saying he “might” suspend it for Memorial Day.  

In todays world, no question he’d draw responses.  Positive and negative.  Social media is nothing if not prolific.  And judgmental.

So if he would draw a response he shouldn't do it?

He's trying to elicit as little a response as possible, given his position.

  Once again, only “issue” with it for me was whether this would be a distraction for his team.  I’m thinking at this point, probably not. But time will tell.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - Phogge - 05-30-2022

F*** social media and f*** all those people that love to hear themselves speak the same gibberish and nonsense over and over again. My god, who cares? That’s why Ted Williams is one of the greats. He could give a f*** what other people think.

Great protest by Kap but he didn’t need to defend himself. A force for change and god almighty do we need change right now.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - lex24 - 05-30-2022

Nice win today.  What do they do with Bart?  He is a backup catcher at this point.  If that is where the Giants brass sees him (and I think it may be) than it’s fine as is.  If, otoh, they believe he has the potential to be an MLB starting catcher, they should send him down to Sac and let him play nearly everyday.  It’s not helping him playing one out of three - and getting pinch hit for late in those games he does play.


RE: 2022 Giants thread - BobK - 05-30-2022

Better than nice excellent win.
Well in Sacramento Bart can’t pinch run for the Giants. Whatever happens we are so fortunate to have Casali