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Re: Class of 2016 - OutsiderFan - 04-14-2015
When is Keith Simms declaring his Stanford commitment? He and Clark Yarbrough seem next up.
Re: Class of 2016 - BobK - 04-15-2015
Yarbrough says May 21
Re: Class of 2016 - larkinforever - 04-15-2015
I don't want to push the panic button, but I woke up to no new commitments this morning and am getting very worried...
Re: Class of 2016 - socalstanfan1 - 04-15-2015
Just a quick thought as we all catch a breath before the next commitment announcement.
As has already been noted, this class seems unusually full of elite prospects with excellent academic credentials who are ready to make the commitment to Stanford immediately (reflecting, perhaps, their enthusiasm, their savvy understanding of how to build a class using the media, and their confidence in their academic credentials). Furthermore, a few guys who are either commited or seen as Stanford leans have noted that they have strongly considered Stanford for years. And the same long-term interest seems to be true for key members of the 2017 class. All of which got me thinking: is this a fluke? A perfect virtuous storm of Athletics and academics? Or something else?
Thinking back, this class would have entered HS in 2012, which was a very big year for the football program in a couple of ways: first Rose Bowl appearance in a generation, which followed a couple of earlier BCS Bowl appearances. Furthermore, it was Post-Luck and Harbaugh, indicating that the program success was more than simply the result of those two powerful individuals. And it was also the year of one of the most nationally noteworthy Stanford recruiting classes in history: the historic OL haul of Peat/Murphy/Ganett, et.al. Was this the year the term Nerd Nation was coined? And the taped Nerd Glasses? Perhaps those marketing gems came later. Richard Sherman (2011) and Andrew Luck (2012) had entered the NFL, becoming the national faces of the program.
Clearly Stanford recruiting has been on the upswing in recent years, and other factors besides those mentioned above (Duane Akina's appeal to DB recruits jumps immediately to mind and the hard work of coach Anderson) are factors as well. But students need to be well prepared for Stanford, focusing on their academics early enough to be ready for the AP classes, and prepped adequately to,score high enough on their SAT/ACT test to get admitted. Maybe we are finally seeing the long-term impact of sustained success, which has raised a whole generation of bright young athletes to begin thinking of Stanford, not when they are 16 or 17, but when they were 12 or 13 and could start really getting ready.
Re: Class of 2016 - MustardtheBallCarrier - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:12 PM)socalstanfan1 link Wrote:Just a quick thought as we all catch a breath before the next commitment announcement.
As has already been noted, this class seems unusually full of elite prospects with excellent academic credentials who are ready to make the commitment to Stanford immediately (reflecting, perhaps, their enthusiasm, their savvy understanding of how to build a class using the media, and their confidence in their academic credentials). Furthermore, a few guys who are either commited or seen as Stanford leans have noted that they have strongly considered Stanford for years. And the same long-term interest seems to be true for key members of the 2017 class. All of which got me thinking: is this a fluke? A perfect virtuous storm of Athletics and academics? Or something else?
Thinking back, this class would have entered HS in 2012, which was a very big year for the football program in a couple of ways: first Rose Bowl appearance in a generation, which followed a couple of earlier BCS Bowl appearances. Furthermore, it was Post-Luck and Harbaugh, indicating that the program success was more than simply the result of those two powerful individuals. And it was also the year of one of the most nationally noteworthy Stanford recruiting classes in history: the historic OL haul of Peat/Murphy/Ganett, et.al. Was this the year the term Nerd Nation was coined? And the taped Nerd Glasses? Perhaps those marketing gems came later. Richard Sherman (2011) and Andrew Luck (2012) had entered the NFL, becoming the national faces of the program.
Clearly Stanford recruiting has been on the upswing in recent years, and other factors besides those mentioned above (Duane Akina's appeal to DB recruits jumps immediately to mind and the hard work of coach Anderson) are factors as well. But students need to be well prepared for Stanford, focusing on their academics early enough to be ready for the AP classes, and prepped adequately to,score high enough on their SAT/ACT test to get admitted. Maybe we are finally seeing the long-term impact of sustained success, which has raised a whole generation of bright young athletes to begin thinking of Stanford, not when they are 16 or 17, but when they were 12 or 13 and could start really getting ready.
Great post. For most recruits in this class, Stanford has been a national football power for as long as the recruits have been thinking about playing college football. Amazing to think about for those of us who have been following Stanford football for decades.
Another factor that I haven't seen anyone mention, but I think is relevant, is the way that the modern, successful male athlete is presenting himself. Especially in the NBA over the last few years, you see great players like Lebron, Durant, Westbrook, Howard, Wade, etc. wearing bold glasses and fashionable clothes off the court in what I take to be a response to the Iverson, Jason Williams streetball aesthetic, and an effort to break the dumb jock stereotype. I think something as simple as the appearance of the athlete is reinforcing in kids that it is okay to be studious, serious and have passions beyond sports in the same way that the baggy shorts and black socks of the Fab Five shaped a whole generation of athletes. I believe the Nerd Nation slogan and Stanford Athletes' comfort showing their nerdy sides on social media is a result of this shift. Most importantly (for us), I think this shift in the perception of what it means to be an athlete has made Stanford much more attractive to potential recruits.
Re: Class of 2016 - yvonne - 04-15-2015
Quote: Was this the year the term Nerd Nation was coined? And the taped Nerd Glasses? Perhaps those marketing gems came later.
I think the Ogwumike sisters were first to embrace the Nerd image. They created this video with Kulabafi prominently featured. Nerd Nation was the Red Zone t-shirt in 2013. The alumni association started selling a similar design at the end of that season, which is when the football players started expressing their inner nerd.
https://youtu.be/C4IxdTLFzyI
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/08/stanford-players-get-nerdy_n_4241306.html
Re: Class of 2016 - Hank 91 - 04-15-2015
(04-15-2015, 04:12 PM)socalstanfan1 link Wrote:Just a quick thought as we all catch a breath before the next commitment announcement.
As has already been noted, this class seems unusually full of elite prospects with excellent academic credentials who are ready to make the commitment to Stanford immediately (reflecting, perhaps, their enthusiasm, their savvy understanding of how to build a class using the media, and their confidence in their academic credentials). Furthermore, a few guys who are either commited or seen as Stanford leans have noted that they have strongly considered Stanford for years. And the same long-term interest seems to be true for key members of the 2017 class. All of which got me thinking: is this a fluke? A perfect virtuous storm of Athletics and academics? Or something else?
Thinking back, this class would have entered HS in 2012, which was a very big year for the football program in a couple of ways: first Rose Bowl appearance in a generation, which followed a couple of earlier BCS Bowl appearances. Furthermore, it was Post-Luck and Harbaugh, indicating that the program success was more than simply the result of those two powerful individuals. And it was also the year of one of the most nationally noteworthy Stanford recruiting classes in history: the historic OL haul of Peat/Murphy/Ganett, et.al. Was this the year the term Nerd Nation was coined? And the taped Nerd Glasses? Perhaps those marketing gems came later. Richard Sherman (2011) and Andrew Luck (2012) had entered the NFL, becoming the national faces of the program.
Clearly Stanford recruiting has been on the upswing in recent years, and other factors besides those mentioned above (Duane Akina's appeal to DB recruits jumps immediately to mind and the hard work of coach Anderson) are factors as well. But students need to be well prepared for Stanford, focusing on their academics early enough to be ready for the AP classes, and prepped adequately to,score high enough on their SAT/ACT test to get admitted. Maybe we are finally seeing the long-term impact of sustained success, which has raised a whole generation of bright young athletes to begin thinking of Stanford, not when they are 16 or 17, but when they were 12 or 13 and could start really getting ready.
I think this nails it. For most of us here, memories of the dark days of Stanford football are still firmly lodged in the frontal cortex. But for as long as these recruits have been watching college football, Stanford has been sitting atop the polls. When Andrew Luck committed, I'm certain tons of people asked him why. When kids today commit, their family and friends universally praise their decision and recognize Stanford for what it is -- the Holy Grail.
Re: Class of 2016 - OutsiderFan - 04-16-2015
The common thread I read is the parents of recruits high on Stanford have pushed their sons to do well in school. So as much as the recruits themselves can only remember Stanford being a powerhouse, their parents probably weren't paying attention to big time college opportunities for their kids until they were right around 10, 11, 12 years old. If a kid is 17 now, he was 10 or 11 in 2009 when Stanford shot on to the national scene the year they crushed USC in the "what's your deal game." And obviously those same parents saw Stanford go to four straight BCS bowl games and win back-to-back Pac-12 titles since.
When Stanford performs that well on the field the parents have that evidence to show their sons that they can be great in the classroom and on the football field. Combine that with the "you'll be set for life with a Stanford degree after football" meme, the coaching staff and training programs, the weather/location, and a Stanford football scholarship is a pretty compelling offering to pass up.Â
For my money, the recruit that really showed Stanford is appealing to a new kind of recruit for Stanford is Ben Edwards. He was committed to Auburn and thought to be leaning to Ohio State, but chose Stanford instead. This was a recruit who was all about wanting to play for a national title contender, who had offers from football factories, and saw Stanford as a place he could go win a championship, and get a superior education. Nygel Edmonds seems to be a similar case.
Re: Class of 2016 - BobK - 04-16-2015
Great great post outsider. Nice.
Re: Class of 2016 - larkinforever - 04-16-2015
This sort of discussion is why I love this site. I hope that some of the recruits might find their way to this site while performing their diligence; I wouldn't be surprised at all if more than a few have already been here...
Re: Class of 2016 - gocard14 - 04-16-2015
Don't forget: Now more then ever, recruits and parents are aware that the NCAA and most schools do not have the recruits best interest in mind. There are a lot of shysters out there, but in this day and age parents can be informed about who has offered who and what that means. Traditional factors like location, "the alma mater," and pagentry/tradition are less important than ever. The sense of trust that Stanford has and Coach Shaw inspires can't be overstated in the process.
Re: Class of 2016 - Hulk01 - 04-16-2015
Justin Reid's commitment might have had a similar impact. The brother of a famous LSU defensive back turns down an LSU offer to come to Stanford.Â
Chances are Malik Antoine, another Louisiana defensive back, noticed, and will be announcing for Stanford next week. That will give us three defensive backs from that state, each with a big time offer. (Terrence Alexander from River Ridge, the current breeding ground for Stanford pole vaulters, held an Ohio State offer.)
Re: Class of 2016 - washingtonismoney - 04-17-2015
https://twitter.com/d_rob4/status/589235315317018625
Re: Class of 2016 - Hank 91 - 04-17-2015
The Robertson decommitment has Cardinal written all over it. We're watching something historic.
Re: Class of 2016 - OutsiderFan - 04-17-2015
Wow. That's big news re: Robertson.
Re: Class of 2016 - BostonCard - 04-17-2015
When was the last time we stole a recruit from Alabama?
BC
Re: Class of 2016 - Extra Point - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 06:39 PM)Hank 91 link Wrote:The Robertson decommitment has Cardinal written all over it. We're watching something historic.
How so? Did Robertson make a visit to Stanford? Did he recently get an offer from Stanford?
Looking at his list of schools, there aren't any indications that education is a high priority for him?
Re: Class of 2016 - Bruce Wang - 04-17-2015
Something tells me these folks aren't such big fans of ours anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIpbRy2aAC8
At the risk of going off on another tangent - BostonCard - 04-17-2015
We apparently have a lot of fans in the SEC. Here are LSU fans upon hearing that we upset USC in the Greatest Upset Ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N1iUV-yIIY
BC
Re: Class of 2016 - washingtonismoney - 04-17-2015
(04-17-2015, 07:36 PM)Extra Point link Wrote:[quote author=Hank 91 link=topic=9617.msg116959#msg116959 date=1429321181]
The Robertson decommitment has Cardinal written all over it. We're watching something historic.
How so? Did Robertson make a visit to Stanford? Did he recently get an offer from Stanford?
Looking at his list of schools, there aren't any indications that education is a high priority for him?
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Yes, we offered Robertson and he said prior to decomitting that Stanford was his second option.
https://twitter.com/stanfordrivals/status/589236893516103680