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Re: Utah game prediction thread - SUBuddha - 11-13-2014

Stanford 27 Utah 24

Re: Utah game prediction thread - Canalejas - 11-13-2014

Stanford 26
Utah 23

Jordan Williamson out-duels Automatic Andy in a battle of FGs

Re: Utah game prediction thread - PrinceLightfoot - 11-13-2014

Stanford 20
Utes 13

Re: Utah game prediction thread - fullmetal - 11-13-2014

Stanford 23, Utah 21.  Defense survives the last go-ahead drive from a very capable Utah offense.  They've got some injuries, but they have a heck of a RB.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - CTcard - 11-14-2014

(11-13-2014, 11:57 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:Defense survives the last go-ahead drive from a very capable Utah offense.  They've got some injuries, but they have a heck of a RB.

That very capable Utah offense is worse than Stanford's in yds/gm, yds/play, points/drive, and is virtually tied in rushing yds/carry (4.18 vs 4.19).

Re: Utah game prediction thread - needle - 11-14-2014

Under-appreciated - 19
Under a hex involving the injury bug - 17

Weakened Ute offensive unable to score touchdowns against a healthier Stanford D. Of course, Stanford's offense isn't great at punching it in, either. But Stanford does just enough to win.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - martyup - 11-14-2014

28 - 14 us

I just want to enjoy watching Stanford football again.  No more wins that feel like a loss, or losses when we outplay the opponent.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - thunder_chik - 11-14-2014

It'll be a squeaker:  Stanford 23, Utah 21

Re: Utah game prediction thread - CornFed - 11-14-2014

Stanford - 24
Utah      - 13

Re: Utah game prediction thread - fullmetal - 11-14-2014

(11-14-2014, 06:29 AM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11089.msg105028#msg105028 date=1415948244]
Defense survives the last go-ahead drive from a very capable Utah offense.  They've got some injuries, but they have a heck of a RB.

That very capable Utah offense is worse than Stanford's in yds/gm, yds/play, points/drive, and is virtually tied in rushing yds/carry (4.18 vs 4.19).
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The last time I had numbers thrown at me was to contend that ASU's defense was worse than WSU's defense.  The Utes put up +11 pts on Oregon compared to Stanford.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - CTcard - 11-14-2014

(11-14-2014, 04:19 PM)fullmetal link Wrote:[quote author=CTcard link=topic=11089.msg105039#msg105039 date=1415971749]
[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11089.msg105028#msg105028 date=1415948244]
Defense survives the last go-ahead drive from a very capable Utah offense.  They've got some injuries, but they have a heck of a RB.

That very capable Utah offense is worse than Stanford's in yds/gm, yds/play, points/drive, and is virtually tied in rushing yds/carry (4.18 vs 4.19).
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The last time I had numbers thrown at me was to contend that ASU's defense was worse than WSU's defense.  The Utes put up +11 pts on Oregon compared to Stanford.
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By all means, rely on single games you happened to notice over season long statistics.

But there is a point in the numbers you chose. Stanford's offensive problems are primarily centered on scoring rather than moving the ball, so being +points on Stanford is not overly surprising. And Utah is fairly good at turning yds into points. Stanford used to be good at that.


ASU is an interesting case. Their defense was not good early on.
They started conference play giving up 545 yds to Colorado, 580 yds to UCLA, and 493 yds to U.-S.-C.. Then they turned things around giving up 288 yds to us, 290 to UW, and 241 to Utah. Certainly the caliber of offenses they faced changed, but that is pretty dramatic. We can be proud we turned their season around.
und actually moved the ball pretty well on Sparty, getting 487 yds but they turned it over 5 times so they didn't have a chance.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - Hey - 11-14-2014

Polymaths: 21
Polygamists:  20



Re: Utah game prediction thread - CowboyIndian - 11-14-2014

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Re: Utah game prediction thread - fullmetal - 11-14-2014

(11-14-2014, 04:44 PM)CTcard link Wrote:[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11089.msg105095#msg105095 date=1416007154]
[quote author=CTcard link=topic=11089.msg105039#msg105039 date=1415971749]
[quote author=fullmetal link=topic=11089.msg105028#msg105028 date=1415948244]
Defense survives the last go-ahead drive from a very capable Utah offense.  They've got some injuries, but they have a heck of a RB.

That very capable Utah offense is worse than Stanford's in yds/gm, yds/play, points/drive, and is virtually tied in rushing yds/carry (4.18 vs 4.19).
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The last time I had numbers thrown at me was to contend that ASU's defense was worse than WSU's defense.  The Utes put up +11 pts on Oregon compared to Stanford.
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By all means, rely on single games you happened to notice over season long statistics.

But there is a point in the numbers you chose. Stanford's offensive problems are primarily centered on scoring rather than moving the ball, so being +points on Stanford is not overly surprising. And Utah is fairly good at turning yds into points. Stanford used to be good at that.


ASU is an interesting case. Their defense was not good early on.
They started conference play giving up 545 yds to Colorado, 580 yds to UCLA, and 493 yds to U.-S.-C.. Then they turned things around giving up 288 yds to us, 290 to UW, and 241 to Utah. Certainly the caliber of offenses they faced changed, but that is pretty dramatic. We can be proud we turned their season around.
und actually moved the ball pretty well on Sparty, getting 487 yds but they turned it over 5 times so they didn't have a chance.
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It's more that I choose to contextualize my statistics rather than rely on past performance being an indicator of future performance.  Utah has no problem scoring, and Stanford does.  Scoring is indeed important in the game of football, and this worries me for the remainder of the schedule.  Regarding ASU, I guess I saw their football performance prior to the Stanford game and judged it more capable than the WSU defense.  The eye test isn't everything, but it's something.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - CTcard - 11-14-2014

No longer Ohlones (or Yuroks) 24
Not the Aspens (nor Blue Spruces) 13

A week off and return to home cooking does wonders. We move the ball but still have troubles turning that to points. Utah is mostly stuffed.

Interesting that despite the generally dark mood on the board, I haven't seen a pick for the Utes yet.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - pefloresjr - 11-14-2014

Nerd Nation - 30
Utah Youths - 13

Cheers,
Pete F.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - SamAtoms1980 - 11-15-2014

This is our house, we have to defend it

Stanford 22
Utah 20

Re: Utah game prediction thread - Hurlburt88 - 11-15-2014

Optimism . . . 28-17

Re: Utah game prediction thread - Hank 91 - 11-15-2014

Stanford 20, Utah 16.

Re: Utah game prediction thread - Durty Nelly - 11-15-2014

Former Indians  20
Still Indians      17