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Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - washingtonismoney - 03-11-2012

(03-11-2012, 09:03 AM)stan01 link Wrote:Dave Fowkes has a new article about spring training.  Unlike Shaw, he thought the defense looked ahead of the offense.

http://www.examiner.com/stanford-cardinal-football-in-san-francisco/stanford-football-spring-practice-finale?CID=examiner_alerts_article.

One thing I'm very happy to read from that article is that Davis Dudchock seems to be coming along (if we can trust Ertz). Obviously we'd all like to see the continuation of the three-TE set next year, and then the (possible) depth issues afterwards makes Dudchock a very important player for us going forward.


Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - washingtonismoney - 03-11-2012

Wilner with more corroboration: http://www.mercurynews.com/stanford-cardinal/ci_20148797/stanford-football-key-position-battles-remain-open

Kelsey Young: Good! Wayne Lyons is apparently considered "one of the most gifted cornerbacks in Stanford history." By whom? Wilner isn't saying. (The Lyons hype is approaching the levels a certain #12 reached in his first spring practice.) Ed Reynolds's football IQ is "so high" but needs to get back in football shape.


Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - CompSci87 - 03-11-2012

(03-11-2012, 11:23 AM)washingtonismoney link Wrote:[quote author=stan01 link=topic=5659.msg41633#msg41633 date=1331481816]
Dave Fowkes has a new article about spring training.  Unlike Shaw, he thought the defense looked ahead of the offense.

http://www.examiner.com/stanford-cardinal-football-in-san-francisco/stanford-football-spring-practice-finale?CID=examiner_alerts_article.

One thing I'm very happy to read from that article is that Davis Dudchock seems to be coming along (if we can trust Ertz). Obviously we'd all like to see the continuation of the three-TE set next year, and then the (possible) depth issues afterwards makes Dudchock a very important player for us going forward.
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I have a notion that the extensive use of 3 tight ends was more about Fleener, Ertz, and Toilolo all being in the personnel package than about snapping the ball with 3 players lined up at tight end. All three are versatile, so with that personnel package we could line up in a lot of formations ranging from 3 tight end to 4 wide, with many variations in between, and the defense had to respect all of the Tree Amigos no matter where they lined up.



Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - washingtonismoney - 03-11-2012

(03-11-2012, 01:06 PM)garvin link Wrote:Technically speaking...

You sound like a copy editor.


Re: Peat or Murphy could very well start in '12 - DC - 03-11-2012

(03-11-2012, 09:42 AM)Red State link Wrote:Peat is of extremely large proportions and has incredible athletic ability. Shaw, a former teammate of Whitfield, btw, said Peat has done some things on the field that he has never seen any other OL do, ever. Freak.

A father of a current Stanford QB candidate who has seen Murphy play in person multiple times, said the guy is so athletic and fundamentally sound that he expects a very strong challenge for a starting job from him this season. Greg Biggins of ESPN thinks he is the premier OT in the country.

The current "starter" at LT, Brendan Austin, was wearing shorts and a knee brace at Saturday's practice. Cole Underwood, who worked with the #1 offense yesterday at LT, looks quite short for an OT and seems much better suited for OG.

Murphy is listed as only 275, although pass blocking is supposed to be his strength. Cole Underwood is listed as only 6'3".

Anyway you look at it, it is a tough problem.  When you lose your LT and his backup (Mabry), it is hard.  Maybe an occasional two-TE set with one on the weakside to help the LT?  Maybe a few rollouts to the right with the QB?


Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - CompSci87 - 03-11-2012

(03-11-2012, 01:06 PM)garvin link Wrote:Technically speaking, it's impossible for more than two guys to line up at tight end. By definition, the third one has to be in the backfield. All our talk about three-tight-end-sets is really about personnel selection (and the resulting match-ups) rather than Xs and Os.

True, of course, but everyone calls it a 3 tight-end set when the third tight-end-type player lines up at a wing position that is immediately next to the end, set back the minimum distance from the line to be considered technically in the backfield.


Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - washingtonismoney - 03-13-2012

Does Stanford's communications department count as the Fourth Estate? Are they an adjunct member (the Third-and-Three-Fourths Estate, maybe)? At any rate, here's gostanford's writeups of spring practice: http://www.gostanford.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/031312aaa.html

A lot of interesting tidbits that I'm not sure how seriously to take (for example, it mentions Alex Carter as a potential safety when Shaw called him a corner back on signing day...), but certainly nice to give it a read. Kelsey Young and Wayne Lyons get the expected plaudits.

Interestingly, also, Shaw seems to insist that the quarterbacks haven't separated themselves even though just about everyone says Nottingham's the best (though based on observations from only two public sessions...)


Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - DC - 03-13-2012

I suspect the QBs know there is separation, as does the team.


Re: Some spring practice observations from the Fourth Estate: - washingtonismoney - 03-14-2012

Wilner with tidbits: http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2012/03/13/stanford-football-updates-from-spring-practice/