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RE: Assistant Coaches - StanfordMatt - 02-27-2023
(02-27-2023, 11:59 AM)BobK Wrote: Seems so about Taylor. Is they analyst on board ??
If it’s someone already on staff, I would think it would be Thomas Merkle. I believe he’s the only offensive analyst on staff with experience working with QBs.
I once sat next to Thomas on a flight. Seemed like a nice guy. I remember him being much more stressed about his reading assignments than anything football related lol. I believe he might’ve been in the MLA program as a grad assistant.
RE: Assistant Coaches - msqueri - 02-27-2023
Merkle being the senior non-Taylor staffer focused on QBs would not be very serious or impressive. I wonder if Taylor might be able to bring on an analyst such as Keller Chryst, who had been working with the QBs at Wisconsin. The real power move would be a turnabout is fair play after Bloomgren poached Alamar by giving a full assistant job after we parked Alamar as an analyst: our old friend Robbie Picazo is now RB coach at Rice because Bloomgren brought Marques Tuiasosopo in as a coordinator, so maybe we can use some money from Adams/Pritchard coming off payroll to give Picazo enough money to take a demotion that gets him back in the QB coaching mix. Doubtful, just thinking out loud. And of course there's no reason to stick with guys from the family. It just seems odd to me if Taylor/Merkle is our hierarchy for QB instruction.
RE: Assistant Coaches - McKenwood - 02-27-2023
(02-27-2023, 12:40 PM)msqueri Wrote: Merkle being the senior non-Taylor staffer focused on QBs would not be very serious or impressive. I wonder if Taylor might be able to bring on an analyst such as Keller Chryst, who had been working with the QBs at Wisconsin. The real power move would be a turnabout is fair play after Bloomgren poached Alamar by giving a full assistant job after we parked Alamar as an analyst: our old friend Robbie Picazo is now RB coach at Rice because Bloomgren brought Marques Tuiasosopo in as a coordinator, so maybe we can use some money from Adams/Pritchard coming off payroll to give Picazo enough money to take a demotion that gets him back in the QB coaching mix. Doubtful, just thinking out loud. And of course there's no reason to stick with guys from the family. It just seems odd to me if Taylor/Merkle is our hierarchy for QB instruction.
Chryst and Picazo are both unemployed right now as best I can tell. They were part of coaching staffs that got let go. Picazo had actually moved to the Texans.
While I like the commitment to the offensive line how can TT be HC, OC and QB coach plus be the recruiter Stanford needs him to be?
RE: Assistant Coaches - Maple Leaf - 02-27-2023
As far as QB mentoring goes, there is a former QB currently on campus going to grad school, with some luck he might try being a grad assistant on the football team.
RE: Assistant Coaches - fullmetal - 02-27-2023
If Troy Taylor has any common sense, he'll tap all available resources on campus. Speaking of which, has Toby graduated from B-school yet?
RE: Assistant Coaches - 82lsju - 02-28-2023
Quote:"The Washington Commanders announced today that Tavita Pritchard has been named the team's quarterbacks coach."https://www.commanders.com/news/commanders-announce-staff-changes
RE: Assistant Coaches - Goose - 02-28-2023
(02-28-2023, 01:46 PM)82lsju Wrote:Good for Tavita. Unfortunate it has to be with a team that has so many "issues", but it is better than no job. He should have done this earlier IMO. I am not sure this is "good" for Stanford, but it will remove a sore point for some people on this board. Hopefully our QBs will play well and make the question moot.Quote:"The Washington Commanders announced today that Tavita Pritchard has been named the team's quarterbacks coach."https://www.commanders.com/news/commanders-announce-staff-changes
RE: Assistant Coaches - msqueri - 02-28-2023
(02-28-2023, 01:56 PM)Goose Wrote:(02-28-2023, 01:46 PM)82lsju Wrote:Good for Tavita. Unfortunate it has to be with a team that has so many "issues", but it is better than no job. He should have done this earlier IMO. I am not sure this is "good" for Stanford, but it will remove a sore point for some people on this board. Hopefully our QBs will play well and make the question moot.Quote:"The Washington Commanders announced today that Tavita Pritchard has been named the team's quarterbacks coach."https://www.commanders.com/news/commanders-announce-staff-changes
I'm happy for him. This is a great opportunity to pair with Bieniemy in a job where there's a lot of upside for improved QB play to be seen as the secret ingredient and get Pritchard a big-time boost to his reputation. It also helps set him up for potential true coordinating opportunities down the line in college or the NFL. In 2023, Pritchard's QB room will either have really low expectations or somebody like Derek Carr could make Pritchard look really good without having to do much.
As for what it means for Stanford, it means a few things:
1. We now have zero continuity from the Shaw staff. On balance I judge that to be a positive in turning the page, establishing a new culture, setting a new tone for the recruiting operation, etc. but one can imagine transition costs/growing pains/learning curve with operating at Stanford.
2. We now have zero offensive coaches other than Taylor who have ever coached even a single season at the major college football level. FCS and grad assistant experience as far as the eye can see, and not even very much at that. For better or worse, Taylor is making a big bet on himself. It's him and a bunch of millennials (one of whom is only a year away from being Gen Z!). In essence this raises the ante on our bet that Taylor learned from his Utah experience and can be a more effective Pac-12 coordinator knowing now what he does after the Utah and Sacramento State experiences. Somewhat nerve-wracking bet.
3. We now don't have a QB coach. Taylor is spreading himself extraordinarily thin as head coach/offensive coordinator/QB coach. This bet may make sense given a) Taylor's core expertise, b) Osborne (receivers coach), his background as a WR/QB guy, and the practical reality that QBs and WRs often work as two sides of the same coin in practice situations, and c) the need to solidify our attention to the trenches in light of getting left at the altar by our ertwhile OL coach (who had been set to be the adult in the room along with Taylor on the offensive staff). I think fans need to acknowledge the bizarre situation of not having a single assistant charged with OC or QB duties (not even Lincoln Riley bites off as much on paper as Taylor is set to) and it does come with risk. Again, Taylor is really betting on himself and so much of our offense's success or failure will come down to that.
4. We lose one of the better recruiters of the Shaw era but replace him with a staff full of fresher faces who may be hungrier. Pritchard, like so many of the Shaw recruiters, made his recruiting reputation in the 2017 class and before, and I think there's a decent chance we'll get more drive out of the new guys. By the way, this is not meant as a knock on Pritchard as an observation of the profiles of the new guys and optimism that Taylor will emphasize recruiting across the staff much more than Shaw did, as indicated by Taylor emphasizing recruiting as a key attribute of pretty much every assistant when he discussed his staff in a recent press conference.
5. We lose one of the two most Stanford institution coaches of all time (Dave Tipton the other). Fans have a complicated relationship with Pritchard but I view him fondly. He threw two of the most iconic and important passes in Stanford history. He mentored Andrew Luck. He was a crucial bridge between the dark ages and the glory days. He coached three different position groups on several of the best teams in Stanford history (not even to mention helping out on defense on some of our best defenses before he was a full coach). As a "coordinator" we often seemed to do better in beginning of game and situational places, one of many pieces of evidence that Shaw was what held Shawfense back more than Pritchard. In any case, Pritchard gave more to Stanford over decades than almost anyone and I wish him the best, and would not be surprised if he comes back to coach at Stanford sometime down the line.
RE: Assistant Coaches - Goose - 02-28-2023
(02-28-2023, 02:29 PM)msqueri Wrote:A unicorn event. I agree with every single thing in this post :-)! TT is indeed in the deep end of the pool. We can't say that is a good thing or a bad thing right now, but it is certainly a formidable task.(02-28-2023, 01:56 PM)Goose Wrote:(02-28-2023, 01:46 PM)82lsju Wrote:Good for Tavita. Unfortunate it has to be with a team that has so many "issues", but it is better than no job. He should have done this earlier IMO. I am not sure this is "good" for Stanford, but it will remove a sore point for some people on this board. Hopefully our QBs will play well and make the question moot.Quote:"The Washington Commanders announced today that Tavita Pritchard has been named the team's quarterbacks coach."https://www.commanders.com/news/commanders-announce-staff-changes
I'm happy for him. This is a great opportunity to pair with Bieniemy in a job where there's a lot of upside for improved QB play to be seen as the secret ingredient and get Pritchard a big-time boost to his reputation. It also helps set him up for potential true coordinating opportunities down the line in college or the NFL. In 2023, Pritchard's QB room will either have really low expectations or somebody like Derek Carr could make Pritchard look really good without having to do much.
As for what it means for Stanford, it means a few things:
1. We now have zero continuity from the Shaw staff. On balance I judge that to be a positive in turning the page, establishing a new culture, setting a new tone for the recruiting operation, etc. but one can imagine transition costs/growing pains/learning curve with operating at Stanford.
2. We now have zero offensive coaches other than Taylor who have ever coached even a single season at the major college football level. FCS and grad assistant experience as far as the eye can see, and not even very much at that. For better or worse, Taylor is making a big bet on himself. It's him and a bunch of millennials (one of whom is only a year away from being Gen Z!). In essence this raises the ante on our bet that Taylor learned from his Utah experience and can be a more effective Pac-12 coordinator knowing now what he does after the Utah and Sacramento State experiences. Somewhat nerve-wracking bet.
3. We now don't have a QB coach. Taylor is spreading himself extraordinarily thin as head coach/offensive coordinator/QB coach. This bet may make sense given a) Taylor's core expertise, b) Osborne (receivers coach), his background as a WR/QB guy, and the practical reality that QBs and WRs often work as two sides of the same coin in practice situations, and c) the need to solidify our attention to the trenches in light of getting left at the altar by our ertwhile OL coach (who had been set to be the adult in the room along with Taylor on the offensive staff). I think fans need to acknowledge the bizarre situation of not having a single assistant charged with OC or QB duties (not even Lincoln Riley bites off as much on paper as Taylor is set to) and it does come with risk. Again, Taylor is really betting on himself and so much of our offense's success or failure will come down to that.
4. We lose one of the better recruiters of the Shaw era but replace him with a staff full of fresher faces who may be hungrier. Pritchard, like so many of the Shaw recruiters, made his recruiting reputation in the 2017 class and before, and I think there's a decent chance we'll get more drive out of the new guys. By the way, this is not meant as a knock on Pritchard as an observation of the profiles of the new guys and optimism that Taylor will emphasize recruiting across the staff much more than Shaw did, as indicated by Taylor emphasizing recruiting as a key attribute of pretty much every assistant when he discussed his staff in a recent press conference.
5. We lose one of the two most Stanford institution coaches of all time (Dave Tipton the other). Fans have a complicated relationship with Pritchard but I view him fondly. He threw two of the most iconic and important passes in Stanford history. He mentored Andrew Luck. He was a crucial bridge between the dark ages and the glory days. He coached three different position groups on several of the best teams in Stanford history (not even to mention helping out on defense on some of our best defenses before he was a full coach). As a "coordinator" we often seemed to do better in beginning of game and situational places, one of many pieces of evidence that Shaw was what held Shawfense back more than Pritchard. In any case, Pritchard gave more to Stanford over decades than almost anyone and I wish him the best, and would not be surprised if he comes back to coach at Stanford sometime down the line.
RE: Assistant Coaches - vataha - 02-28-2023
Regarding Tavita I am happy he got this job and I wish him much success. I have always had a soft spot for Tavita since he came to Stanford as the Throwin’ Samoans’ nephew. Will always be a large figure in Stanford Football lore. As a coach I liked him and I gave him the benefit of the doubt as to just how much of his personality was displayed by the offense. He seemed like a real good guy. I agree with a previous post that I could see him somewhere in Stanford’s future.
RE: Assistant Coaches - BostonCard - 02-28-2023
I wish Taylor the best, and hope his bets pay out (or, if not, that he can pivot quickly). However, this does make me very nervous about the next couple years. Taylor really has only one opportunity to establish a narrative that he is turning things around and headed in the right direction, or the narrative will quickly turn to "in over his head". There is a step change going from FCS to FBS (without him even having established himself in a G5 school), and while some guys can make the transition successfully, and Taylor's experience at Utah might inform things, he is basically making the transition without a safety net. The most probable outcome is probably not going to be a successful transition, I'm afraid.
BC
RE: Assistant Coaches - Spiny_Norman - 02-28-2023
I believe that this means zero assistant coaches with any prior ties to Stanford. And no one with experience recruiting for Stanford or managing Stanford admissions. Prepare for growing pains, indeed.
RE: Assistant Coaches - 82lsju - 02-28-2023
(02-28-2023, 05:55 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: I believe that this means zero assistant coaches with any prior ties to Stanford. And no one with experience recruiting for Stanford or managing Stanford admissions. Prepare for growing pains, indeed.
how many coaches did Harbaugh retain?
RE: Assistant Coaches - msqueri - 02-28-2023
(02-28-2023, 06:15 PM)82lsju Wrote:(02-28-2023, 05:55 PM)Spiny_Norman Wrote: I believe that this means zero assistant coaches with any prior ties to Stanford. And no one with experience recruiting for Stanford or managing Stanford admissions. Prepare for growing pains, indeed.
how many coaches did Harbaugh retain?
No retentions (in fact kicked Dave Tipton, the Tavita Pritchard of his day, to the curb). Two Stanford Men (David Shaw and Chris Dalman).
RE: Assistant Coaches - 82lsju - 03-10-2023
(02-27-2023, 11:49 AM)StanfordMatt Wrote:(02-27-2023, 11:46 AM)BobK Wrote: Looks like co OL coaches with Netter
https://yalebulldogs.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/al-netter/44
Very interesting. If we hire 2 co-OL coaches to fill Klayton’s role it means we won’t be hiring an on-field replacement for Tavita. I presume TT will be the de facto HC/OC/QB along with an analyst helping with QBs.
so neither Netter nor Talamaivao have shown up on the coaching staff listed at gostanford, are they not joining?
Netter is still listed on the Yale staff, Talamaivao is not on the NAU staff page
RE: Assistant Coaches - SamuelMcF - 03-10-2023
(03-10-2023, 01:12 PM)82lsju Wrote:(02-27-2023, 11:49 AM)StanfordMatt Wrote:(02-27-2023, 11:46 AM)BobK Wrote: Looks like co OL coaches with Netter
https://yalebulldogs.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/al-netter/44
Very interesting. If we hire 2 co-OL coaches to fill Klayton’s role it means we won’t be hiring an on-field replacement for Tavita. I presume TT will be the de facto HC/OC/QB along with an analyst helping with QBs.
so neither Netter nor Talamaivao have shown up on the coaching staff listed at gostanford, are they not joining?
Netter is still listed on the Yale staff, Talamaivao is not on the NAU staff page
Both are onboard. The "official" site is behind as usual. There are also multiple other recruiting/support/training staff not yet listed.
RE: Assistant Coaches - CardinalSagehen - 03-17-2023
(03-10-2023, 02:31 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(03-10-2023, 01:12 PM)82lsju Wrote:(02-27-2023, 11:49 AM)StanfordMatt Wrote:(02-27-2023, 11:46 AM)BobK Wrote: Looks like co OL coaches with Netter
https://yalebulldogs.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/al-netter/44
Very interesting. If we hire 2 co-OL coaches to fill Klayton’s role it means we won’t be hiring an on-field replacement for Tavita. I presume TT will be the de facto HC/OC/QB along with an analyst helping with QBs.
so neither Netter nor Talamaivao have shown up on the coaching staff listed at gostanford, are they not joining?
Netter is still listed on the Yale staff, Talamaivao is not on the NAU staff page
Both are onboard. The "official" site is behind as usual. There are also multiple other recruiting/support/training staff not yet listed.
The official announcement came today:
https://gostanford.com/news/2023/3/17/football-co-offensive-line-coaches.aspx
It's strange. After his experience with Adams, maybe Coach Taylor is going for full redundancy with co-OL coaches. I hope more = better and they settle into a clear division of responsibilities.