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Re: Class of 2018 - SamuelMcF - 10-04-2017

Someone seized the means of production.

Speaking of seizing things, when are we gonna seize another commit? Any Utah players gonna watch us smash the hometown team to a pulp?


Re: Class of 2018 - Hank 91 - 10-05-2017

All Utah prospects come to Stanford. It's a rule. So I assume there will be some in attendance.


Re: Class of 2018 - SamuelMcF - 10-08-2017

WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/917027477284970496

Flipped from Pitt.


Re: Class of 2018 - gocard14 - 10-08-2017

Incidentally, what does a high school FB need to do to get more then 3*? Pancake 3 people/play? I get the feeling we get pretty much our pick of the nations top FBs that are academically eligible, and none of them can get past the low 3* range. This is clearly a position where stars and skills don’t align.


Re: Class of 2018 - Mick - 10-08-2017

(10-08-2017, 11:37 AM)gocard14 link Wrote:Incidentally, what does a high school FB need to do to get more then 3*? Pancake 3 people/play? I get the feeling we get pretty much our pick of the nations top FBs that are academically eligible, and none of them can get past the low 3* range. This is clearly a position where stars and skills don’t align.


Tom Rathman, played for the Cornhuskers, had a 6-7 foot high jump in high school, also won a low hurdles race. That oughta do it.

http://dataomaha.com/neb100/player/56


Re: Class of 2018 - BobK - 10-09-2017

https://mobile.twitter.com/stanfordfb/status/917578141534527489




Re: Class of 2018 - BostonCard - 10-09-2017

Seriously, a center named Hayden Center?  Talk about an apropos name.

BC


Re: Class of 2018 - BigEasyCard - 10-11-2017

(10-08-2017, 09:43 AM)SamuelMcF link Wrote:WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/917027477284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

Creative recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Bolt/Wiltfongs-Weekly-Buzz-Wanted-ad-lands-Stanford-its-fullback-108725520

Geaux Cardinal!


Re: Class of 2018 - TreesAndBirds - 10-11-2017

(10-11-2017, 01:13 PM)BigEasyCard link Wrote:[quote author=SamuelMcF link=topic=12112.msg205157#msg205157 date=1507481018]
WE SEIZED ANOTHER COMMIT! WOOO!

A SCHOLARSHIP FULLBACK! YES, YOU READ THAT RIGHT! 6'4", 255!

https://twitter.com/JaySymonds24/status/917027477284970496

Flipped from Pitt.

Creative recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Bolt/Wiltfongs-Weekly-Buzz-Wanted-ad-lands-Stanford-its-fullback-108725520

Geaux Cardinal!
[/quote]

And in case anyone missed this at the bottom of the article....

"Recent 247Sports Crystal Ball forecasts include...

Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Notre Dame."


Re: Class of 2018 - OutsiderFan - 10-11-2017

(10-11-2017, 02:28 PM)TreesAndBirds link Wrote:Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.



Re: Class of 2018 - French Rage - 10-11-2017

(10-11-2017, 02:49 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:[quote author=TreesAndBirds link=topic=12112.msg205807#msg205807 date=1507757322]
Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.
[/quote]

Or he could be an ironman and do both!  (I kid, I kid.)


Re: Class of 2018 - ChicagoCard - 10-13-2017

Article on Tobe Umerah...

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-recruiting-tobe-umerah-stanford-commit


Re: Class of 2018 - washingtonismoney - 10-13-2017

(10-13-2017, 03:39 AM)ChicagoTree link Wrote:Article on Tobe Umerah...

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/auburn-recruiting-tobe-umerah-stanford-commit

Typical admissions hedging.


Re: Class of 2018 - OutsiderFan - 10-13-2017

I have not thought of LB Dax Hollifield as a legit possibility for the last couple months, but this latest Rivals story suggests Stanford is right in the thick of it for him, especially since he is coming for the big visit weekend.

https://n.rivals.com/news/rivals250-lb-dax-hollifield-breaks-down-his-recent-upcoming-visits


Re: Class of 2018 - Hank 91 - 10-13-2017

(10-11-2017, 03:07 PM)French Rage link Wrote:[quote author=OutsiderFan link=topic=12112.msg205812#msg205812 date=1507758573]
[quote author=TreesAndBirds link=topic=12112.msg205807#msg205807 date=1507757322]
Baltimore (Md.) Gilman four-star defensive end Thomas Booker to Stanford. Booker could also play offensive line on the next level. A recent official to Palo Alto seems to have put The Cardinal ahead of Votre Dame."

That would be such gigantic news, but no way is Booker playing OL for Stanford if he can play DL.  Now get Andres Fox.
[/quote]

Or he could be an ironman and do both!  (I kid, I kid.)
[/quote]

On a serious note -- anyone know the last time someone played offensive and defensive line for a contending team?


Re: Class of 2018 - Bruce Wang - 10-13-2017

(10-13-2017, 12:01 PM)Hank 91 link Wrote:On a serious note -- anyone know the last time someone played offensive and defensive line for a contending team?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2017/02/04/two-way-garland-falcons-lineman-plays-offense-and-defense/97483748/

Don't know if he played both ways in an actual game with meaningful number of snaps on both sides of the ball.  It would be insane in this day and age.  Think about how crazy it was that Marecic played LB and FB.  A lineman gets contact on every play.

The same Google search turned up this:
https://books.google.com/books?id=y65iAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA225&lpg=PA225&dq=two+way+lineman&source=bl&ots=7rNiNw7Xg9&sig=OND_plVr35eJCH5WioXT2dFxEpI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwitzsmmwO7WAhWiz4MKHQW0CII4FBDoAQhrMAc#v=onepage&q=two%20way%20lineman&f=false

Apparently Anthony Munoz played two ways.


Re: Class of 2018 - martyup - 10-13-2017

In HS, I played every play of every game unless I got hurt.  That's kickoff, kickoff receiving, punt, punt receiving, offense, defense, PAT, and PAT defense.  I'm sure that many HS players do the same.  I played for a California single A school.  I only missed one quarter of one game because of injury, which I suffered riding a bull in a HS rodeo.  My football coach was pretty angry about that.


Re: Class of 2018 - PalmTree - 10-13-2017

(10-13-2017, 03:09 PM)martyup link Wrote:In HS, I played every play of every game unless I got hurt.  That's kickoff, kickoff receiving, punt, punt receiving, offense, defense, PAT, and PAT defense.  I'm sure that many HS players do the same.  I played for a California single A school.  I only missed one quarter of one game because of injury, which I suffered riding a bull in a HS rodeo.  My football coach was pretty angry about that.

...sounds like he didn't take any bull from you after that...

Seriously though, props to you...that's pretty nuts playing that much.  I went to a smaller high school in Hawaii and we had ~4-5 guys playing both ways but I don't remember any of them having to pull punt + kickoff duty in addition to that - maybe one of those for the speedy guys, but not both. 


Re: Class of 2018 - gocard14 - 10-13-2017

I was also at a smaller HS and played pretty much every snap until senior year, when we had enough depth to rotate Dlineman and get off kickoff return team.

I think O and Dline is doable from an endurance standpoint at the college level (assuming rotating snaps on the DL) but both require such technical precision that it would be very tough to master both skill sets. The body types also tend to be a little different as the typical nose guard would be a bit oversized for an Olineman while the DEs would be undersized.


Re: Class of 2018 - martyup - 10-13-2017

(10-13-2017, 05:28 PM)gocard14 link Wrote:I was also at a smaller HS and played pretty much every snap until senior year, when we had enough depth to rotate Dlineman and get off kickoff return team.

I think O and Dline is doable from an endurance standpoint at the college level (assuming rotating snaps on the DL) but both require such technical precision that it would be very tough to master both skill sets. The body types also tend to be a little different as the typical nose guard would be a bit oversized for an Olineman while the DEs would be undersized.

I played FB and OLB.  On kickoff receiving I played mid-field.  At FB, I mostly was a lead blocker on runs and a pass blocker on passes.  I had to get into really good cardio shape to do it, but I never felt winded when the ball was snapped.  Of course, none of our opponents played with hurry-up offenses.  I was pretty sore on Saturdays, though.  And, of course, all of our HS rodeos were on Saturdays.  :-\