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Re: Class of 2016 - yvonne - 01-20-2016

https://twitter.com/TaylorHamm247/status/689863972095299584

Re: Class of 2016 - Bruce Wang - 01-20-2016

(01-20-2016, 05:53 PM)Yvonne link Wrote:https://twitter.com/TaylorHamm247/status/689863972095299584

I hope he brought his pajamas.

Re: Class of 2016 - washingtonismoney - 01-20-2016

Can she play wideout though?

https://twitter.com/mike_williams52/status/689989114033238017

Re: Class of 2016 - Stanford_Cardinals - 01-20-2016

(01-20-2016, 06:07 PM)Publius link Wrote:[quote author=Yvonne link=topic=9617.msg153763#msg153763 date=1453337584]
https://twitter.com/TaylorHamm247/status/689863972095299584

I hope he brought his pajamas.
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I'm not holding out too much hope, his recent Tweets make is seem like Texas is the choice.

Re: Class of 2016 - TrumpCard - 01-20-2016

(01-20-2016, 07:03 PM)Stanford_Cardinals link Wrote:I'm not holding out too much hope, his recent Tweets make is seem like Texas is the choice.

Stanford is fighting some serious head-to-head battles this cycle, and the battle for McCulloch is the biggest.  Yet I would love to be in Coach Shaw's seat tonight because he has a great pitch to make. 

The key factor, as always, is academics.  There is nothing wrong with Texas.  It's a good school, but it is not Stanford, which is a great school.  And McCulloch isn't a good student, he's a great student.  Top 1% of his class.  McCulloch might settle for Texas academics, but he at least understands that he'd be missing something more if he turned down Stanford.

But it's not just about academics anymore.  Stanford is the far superior football program.  Texas has two straight losing seasons and hasn't won double digit games this decade.  Unsurprisingly, Strong is on the hot seat.  If Texas had the program of old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.  But it doesn't.  And if Stanford were just an academic school, same thing.  But it's not a choice of either academics or football anymore.  With Stanford, it's both and. 

You could make the same case for Stanford with Pryts (who has a 3.9 gpa and appears to be really bright as well).  Aside from the difference in academics, Penn State is not the program it used to be.  It has 3 straight 7-win seasons and hasn't won double digit games this decade.  The coaching staff suffered significant turnover and Franklin is on the hot seat. 

These kids might well choose to stay close to home, but there is a tremendous opportunity for them if they are willing to travel, and these kids seem like the type to snatch that opportunity. 

Re: Class of 2016 - DC - 01-20-2016

(01-20-2016, 07:34 PM)TrumpCard link Wrote:[quote author=Stanford_Cardinals link=topic=9617.msg153775#msg153775 date=1453341816]
I'm not holding out too much hope, his recent Tweets make is seem like Texas is the choice.

Stanford is fighting some serious head-to-head battles this cycle, and the battle for McCulloch is the biggest.  Yet I would love to be in Coach Shaw's seat tonight because he has a great pitch to make. 

The key factor, as always, is academics.  There is nothing wrong with Texas.  It's a good school, but it is not Stanford, which is a great school.  And McCulloch isn't a good student, he's a great student.  Top 1% of his class.  McCulloch might settle for Texas academics, but he at least understands that he'd be missing something more if he turned down Stanford.

But it's not just about academics anymore.  Stanford is the far superior football program.  Texas has two straight losing seasons and hasn't won double digit games this decade.  Unsurprisingly, Strong is on the hot seat.  If Texas had the program of old, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.  But it doesn't.  And if Stanford were just an academic school, same thing.  But it's not a choice of either academics or football anymore.  With Stanford, it's both and. 

You could make the same case for Stanford with Pryts (who has a 3.9 gpa and appears to be really bright as well).  Aside from the difference in academics, Penn State is not the program it used to be.  It has 3 straight 7-win seasons and hasn't won double digit games this decade.  The coaching staff suffered significant turnover and Franklin is on the hot seat. 

These kids might well choose to stay close to home, but there is a tremendous opportunity for them if they are willing to travel, and these kids seem like the type to snatch that opportunity.
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Could you forward this post to David Shaw's email address?  :)


Re: Class of 2016 - oman - 01-20-2016

Yeah, Stanford is clearly the superior football program.  I actually think Texas is going to turn around pretty quickly under Strong.  If I was a betting man I would bet that in two years Texas is going to be seriously back in the game. 

Each person has their own inscrutable reasons for wanting to go somewhere.  I've got two kids who had more fulfilling college experience than I and they weren't at elite schools.  I enjoyed Austin more than Palo Alto, but I chalk most of that up to immaturity.

I tried to do the legal pad with the pluses and minuses of each school with my kids when they were looking at schools and it never worked.  They wouldn't listen to reason.

I just had to deal with being away from home when I was younger.  These kids have to deal with being away form home, dealing with DI football, and dealing with challenging academics.  I don't have any problem understanding why someone might want to try the lessen the stress of one of these variables.

Re: Class of 2016 - fullmetal - 01-20-2016

Agreed.  The right decision at the wrong time of life or development can make for a bad decision.

Re: Class of 2016 - CTcard - 01-21-2016

(01-20-2016, 10:41 PM)oman link Wrote:I actually think Texas is going to turn around pretty quickly under Strong.  If I was a betting man I would bet that in two years Texas is going to be seriously back in the game. 

As someone who only knows the Texas program as an outsider - and from national media reports - I find your consistent and unshakable belief in Charlie Strong both a little surprising and endearing.

From outside it seems he took over a program that had 15 8+ win seasons in 16 years and led them to consecutive years of 6-7 and 5-7. 247-composite ranks their 2016 class at #32, #4 in the state (with Eboh still in their column). They've gone to the drastic (panicked?) step of canning the offensive staff and bringing in a new system. They've got players using twitter at halftime of games talking about transfering and their once star recruit OL actually transferring after three years just before he's expected to start.

I would assume that most of the Texas fan base is not so sanguine as you.

Strong seems like a better guy than most football coaches, so I hope he makes it - which I guess means I hope you're basically right.

Re: Class of 2016 - OutsiderFan - 01-21-2016

So did Pryts submit a Stanford application?  Has he been admitted?

Starting to look like maybe Stanford coaches weren't too broken up about losing Edmonds and Ulloa as they might prefer Eboh and Pryts?

And it is starting to feel like the coaches might prefer Powell to Herbig?

Re: Class of 2016 - BobK - 01-21-2016

I don't think that's true about Powell.  More likely bothy ham your thought.  But I'm guessing also.

Re: Class of 2016 - Extra Point - 01-21-2016

(01-21-2016, 06:12 AM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:So did Pryts submit a Stanford application?  Has he been admitted?

Starting to look like maybe Stanford coaches weren't too broken up about losing Edmonds and Ulloa as they might prefer Eboh and Pryts?

And it is starting to feel like the coaches might prefer Powell to Herbig?

I have to ask Outsider Fan, did you see or hear something to support these statements?

Re: Class of 2016 - OutsiderFan - 01-21-2016

Just some tid bits from Ulloa story, the mention of Pryts, Eboh's recruitment, and how Powell appears to be a hot commodity now.  That's why I put question marks :)

Re: Class of 2016 - TrumpCard - 01-21-2016

(01-21-2016, 01:31 PM)OutsiderFan link Wrote:Just some tid bits from Ulloa story, the mention of Pryts, Eboh's recruitment, and how Powell appears to be a hot commodity now.  That's why I put question marks :)

I  see no basis to say that the staff prefers Herbig over Powell.  Herbig de-committed.  If the staff preferred Powell, it would simply offer him, but the staff hasn't done that.  By comparison, Herbig was the OL star of Stanford's camp and picked up an offer immediately after the conclusion of the drills, well before Hattis got one.  Further, when Herbig decommitted, he instantly got offers from UW and ASU, which are better offers than Powell has, even though he supposedly is the hot commodity. 

I also do not see any basis to say that the staff prefers Eboh over Edmonds.  The staff offered Edmonds very early in the process and held off on offering Eboh until January.  Remember that Eboh was at a very early junior day, so it's not as though the staff discovered him late in the game.  The staff clearly evaluated him behind Edmonds.  The only caveat is that the evaluation might have changed based on senior year performance, but again, that is pure speculation, not supported by any facts whatsoever.

The Ulloa story had a statement from the reporter (not a quote) suggesting that Ulloa felt slow played.  Ulloa easily could have felt that way because he didn't get a response from admissions, not because the coaches stopped recruiting him.  We don't know the answer to that question, but it is pure speculation to read into that reporter statement that the Stanford coaches stopped recruiting Ulloa.  It is not in the article at all.  I would not be surprised if the staff prefers Pryts anyway.  They offered him very early and he's a great recruit.  That doesn't mean the staff wanted one or the other.  Both could have been just fine, and I suspect that is the case.



Yeah, I'd give three hams...make that four... - Redrum - 01-21-2016

(01-21-2016, 08:48 AM)BobK link Wrote:I don't think that's true about Powell.  More likely bothy ham your thought.  But I'm guessing also.

...if I could read somebody's thoughts

Re: Class of 2016 - larkinforever - 01-21-2016

David Long to Michigan

https://vine.co/v/iepLmAT3hwe...

Re: Class of 2016 - TrumpCard - 01-21-2016

I hope we see photos like this in the Merc for the next 4 years:

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Re: Class of 2016 - Hank 91 - 01-21-2016

(01-20-2016, 10:41 PM)oman link Wrote:Yeah, Stanford is clearly the superior football program.  I actually think Texas is going to turn around pretty quickly under Strong.  If I was a betting man I would bet that in two years Texas is going to be seriously back in the game. 

Each person has their own inscrutable reasons for wanting to go somewhere.  I've got two kids who had more fulfilling college experience than I and they weren't at elite schools.  I enjoyed Austin more than Palo Alto, but I chalk most of that up to immaturity.

I tried to do the legal pad with the pluses and minuses of each school with my kids when they were looking at schools and it never worked.  They wouldn't listen to reason.

I just had to deal with being away from home when I was younger.  These kids have to deal with being away form home, dealing with DI football, and dealing with challenging academics.  I don't have any problem understanding why someone might want to try the lessen the stress of one of these variables.

Some kids will never want to leave home, but I think we also have to remember the family pressure involved. Some families will push their children out of the nest, but not all. In the last few years I've come to realize something about being a sports parent. I've been coaching or watching my daughter play basketball for eleven years now. She's not on the scholarship track, but if she were going to play college basketball, and a coach on the other side of the country were trying to sign her, it would be hard knowing that she'd be playing games that I wouldn't be able to watch.

Two years ago when JuJu Smith was fielding offers from all over the country, I knew there was no way he wasn't going to SouthernCal. There were at least forty or fifty family members in the stands at his high school games every Friday night, some wearing jerseys, everyone else carrying signs and bags of confetti to throw for each of his touchdowns. I knew he'd never leave them.

It's easy for us to say a kid from Texas or Georgia or Florida should take this great opportunity, but in some situations, Stanford might as well be the dark side of the moon.

Re: Class of 2016 - TrumpCard - 01-21-2016

Per Bartow (247), Stephens decommitted.  Brutal.

Re: Class of 2016 - AthleticsDynasty - 01-21-2016

Never seen a class get shredded like this in the matter of 1 month