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RE: WBB: Stanford 87 Iowa State 81 (OT) - Bampa - 03-25-2024

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On TV I watched Cam heading back to her bench after fouling out and could read her lips saying "Fukc You" in the direction of the ref who called the foul.  I had a flash of fear that she would get T'd up.  Not a good look for her, but that last foul call was so bogus.
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She needs to control her emotions. You CAN'T change what has already happened.
If you dwell on the past, your emotions will affect play going forward. At this level, you just can't do that.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 87 Iowa State 81 (OT) - martyup - 03-25-2024

Okay, I have to get this off my chest.  I don't like to complain about refs, but last night seemed extraordinary.  At the start of the game, the refs were calling the game very closely.  They whistled several hand check fouls that you don't see called in womens' basketball much.  I welcomed this approach by the refs because I've seen too many games when the refs let the game get too physical.  However, I don't think these refs were consistent with their calls.  They allowed Crooks to slam her body into Cam and Kiki under the basket on offense and they allowed her to go over the top on rebounds.  Crooks repeatedly used her off arm and shoulder to clear the defender.  I think she uses this approach because she doesn't appear to be able to jump more than a couple of inches off the floor.  They whistled Cam when she did the same thing as Crooks or even less.  

It makes you wonder if they were compensating for Crooks body mass index when allowing her to use her body against defenders.  It must have been extremely frustrating for Cam to be suffering this physical abuse by Crooks only to be whistled for a foul when she made minimal contact.  On the last foul called on Cam, it appeared that she and Crooks both had their hands on the ball while rebounding, which should have been called a jump ball.  However, Cam was in front of Crooks.  Why was Cam and not Crooks called for the foul?  It makes you wonder if there was a bias or an agenda by one or more of these refs.

I have said before, I think Cam complains too much about non-calls when she is fouled.  This undoubtedly gets under the skin of refs and probably leads to more non-calls.  She really needs to stop her complaining.  If we are going to beat NC State and win our Elite 8 game, we need Cam on the floor for extended minutes.  I sure hope Tara, and maybe her mom and dad, talk to her about this issue.

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BTW, last night our WBB team logged their 30th win of the season!  

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leftcoast - Leftcoast - 03-25-2024

The last foul on Cam was legit.  We’d be screaming for the call if someone did that to Cam or Kiki.  

Did you watch the game on TV?  The announcers started to question it until they saw the replay, and like me, were fine with it afterward. (Got wrist, got body, and reached)

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RE: WBB: Stanford 87 Iowa State 81 (OT) - jacket3ree - 03-25-2024

I don't think there is bias, I just think the officials have a really hard job and often don't do it well. We're biased, so we see bias in the calls. I'm sure Iowa State fans were peeved watching their players get swallowed up near the rim without getting called. Someone biased to the Cyclones might call it mugging.

Social media went nuts when Samford was jobbed (and they were jobbed) against Kansas. I know Kerr hates the tedium of reviewing everything and I agree with that view, but that begged to be reviewed. Of course the best view of the perfect block at the rim showed the official in perfect position between the camera and play to make the right call. At the speed of the game half of it is presumed. It is hard to get a whistle blast back.

They miss a lot of stuff and see a lot of stuff that isn't there. I don't remember which game it was yesterday, but there was a full-on collision between two players and the ball skittered out of bounds. The color guy said, 'I don't know what that was, but it had to be something.' The play by play announcer deadpanned: 'Apparently ball out of bounds. Possession [whomever]'

I did enjoy the chop block play in the Stanford game last night. 15 yards.

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RE: WBB: Stanford 87 Iowa State 81 (OT) - TonyLima - 03-25-2024

martyup dateline='[url=tel:1711409556' Wrote:  1711409556[/url]']
Okay, I have to get this off my chest.  I don't like to complain about refs, but last night seemed extraordinary.  At the start of the game, the refs were calling the game very closely.  They whistled several hand check fouls that you don't see called in womens' basketball much.  I welcomed this approach by the refs because I've seen too many games when the refs let the game get too physical.  However, I don't think these refs were consistent with their calls.  They allowed Crooks to slam her body into Cam and Kiki under the basket on offense and they allowed her to go over the top on rebounds.  Crooks repeatedly used her off arm and shoulder to clear the defender.  I think she uses this approach because she doesn't appear to be able to jump more than a couple of inches off the floor.  They whistled Cam when she did the same thing as Crooks or even less.  

It makes you wonder if they were compensating for Crooks body mass index when allowing her to use her body against defenders.  It must have been extremely frustrating for Cam to be suffering this physical abuse by Crooks only to be whistled for a foul when she made minimal contact.  On the last foul called on Cam, it appeared that she and Crooks both had their hands on the ball while rebounding, which should have been called a jump ball.  However, Cam was in front of Crooks.  Why was Cam and not Crooks called for the foul?  It makes you wonder if there was a bias or an agenda by one or more of these refs.

I have said before, I think Cam complains too much about non-calls when she is fouled.  This undoubtedly gets under the skin of refs and probably leads to more non-calls.  She really needs to stop her complaining.  If we are going to beat NC State and win our Elite 8 game, we need Cam on the floor for extended minutes.  I sure hope Tara, and maybe her mom and dad, talk to her about this issue.

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BTW, last night our WBB team logged their 30th win of the season!  

See many of my posts on various threads about the current state of women’s basketball. If you can find it, see my deleted post about Crooks.

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