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Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - CowboyIndian - 11-30-2010

Believe it! ...and pray for the FBI to come up with something in the next week!

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - readarmy1976 - 11-30-2010

I hope they go onto the field and arrest Cam Newton in the middle of the SEC championship game. That would be awesome.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - Farm93 - 11-30-2010

I think this projection pretty much captures the anti-Newton factor already.  

If Newton is innocent, and his Dad is just sleezy, then Newton deserves this award.

I can\'t help but think that the Voldemort may be looking squarely at their next returned award.  At least then Bush will have company.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - fullmetal - 11-30-2010

Even if Cam knew nothing, the rules will still clearly trip him up since his father is benefiting materially from their relationship and Cam\'s status.

Can\'t believe his dad is a pastor...

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - CowboyIndian - 11-30-2010

Quote:Can\'t believe his dad is a pastor...

Well, he got the church fixed up and out of hock.  ::)

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - Leftcoast - 11-30-2010

Didn\'t I hear the "church" was an empty storefront?   Guess the only thing necessary was that it receive donations - or did I just get the cynical version?

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - burger - 12-01-2010

Quote:Even if Cam knew nothing, the rules will still clearly trip him up since his father is benefiting materially from their relationship and Cam\'s status.

Can\'t believe his dad is a pastor...

Actually, it doesn\'t matter if Cam\'s father got money or not.  If he simply asked for money, Cam would be ineligible to play.

What I want to know is if Luck comes in second behind Cam, and Cam pulls a Reggie Bush, does Andrew get the Voldemort, or does it disappear into limbo?

"Pastors" - Redrum - 12-01-2010

ESPN had a FABULOUS show on Marcus Dupree  The Superstar Who Never Was  on  Sunday.  Showed his roots in Mississippi, the madness of his recruitment,  his stellar freshman year at Oklahoma and his departure from the the team.   All the time a pastor was counseling him, trying to get him to consider Southern Mississippi.  When Dupree left OU and just disappeared,  the pastor was counseling him.  Got him to transfer to Southern Miss  without telling Dupree that he\'d sit out a year,  then got him to stay on campus to workout for the NFL.   NFL wouldn\'t touch a sophomore, so then the pastor negotiated a deal with
The Breakers of the USFL.  (Breakers\' GM non other than Randy Vataha). Then as Dupree\'s agent,  he managed his money pretty much into oblivion.    Some pastor.   Dupree was badly injured, worked his way back for one season with the Rams, then retired.  Drives trucks for a living.  

Great show, btw,  if you get a chance to see it.  

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - tmswope - 12-01-2010

Quote:I don\'t think anybody got Reggie Bush\'s Voldemort. They just sort of vacate the award for the year.

Yeah, there was some thought that Vince Young would just step in and be awarded the Voldemort since he was second place in the voting (and since he showed he was the best player in the nation in the BCS Championship Game).  But, much to the chagrin of Texas fans, that didn\'t happen.  I can\'t imagine it happening for Luck either, but we can certainly campaign for it when the time comes.  It sure doesn\'t hurt to keep saying/writing the words "Voldemort" and "Stanford" in the same sentence!

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - fullmetal - 12-01-2010

Redrum-- I read the SI.com article on Dupree: "The Best that never was" a few weeks ago when it was published.  Was he that good?  I have to think that, in my limited exposure to sports thus far, there have been countless such stories about super-athletes who have fallen victim to some confluence of fate and personal foibles...

Where money and athletics are involved, pastors should avoid.

Re: Luck-- maybe we need another Voldemort campaign!

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - washingtonismoney - 12-01-2010

YouTube isn\'t definitive, but dang Marcus Dupree\'s YouTube is good: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg2bHHY3d84

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG_hY8D9BGw&feature=related

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - Mick - 12-01-2010

Quote:I don\'t think anybody got Reggie Bush\'s Voldemort. They just sort of vacate the award for the year.
Voldemort.com doesn\'t list a 2005 winner.  No Vince Young.  There\'s just nothing there.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - mark3k - 12-01-2010

Saw that Marcus Dupree story (on E-60 perhaps?), Redrum, and it was fantastic/sad.  My son watched it with me, and there were plenty of good lessons in it for him.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - Ratmandoo - 12-01-2010

The Marcus Dupree documentary is part of the 30 for 30 series. Most of the series is excellent and the Best That Never Was was probably the best one I\'ve seen. And if you want to know if Dupree was the real deal, watch this documentary. I think they said he scored on a 60+ yard touchdown run in four consecutive games. And the highlights are unreal. It\'s too bad his career happened in the 80s. If he had played today, he would have at least been saved from the playing with a concussion and through his hampstring issues that eventually lead to his debilitating knee injury in the USFL. I\'m not sure if he would have been saved from his pastor or family.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - dabigv13 - 12-01-2010

"The U" is one of my favorite 2 hours of TV ever. Fantastic 30 for 30 episode.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - Spiny_Norman - 12-01-2010

I agree, The U was terrific.  I also highly recommend The Two Escobars.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - jacketree - 12-01-2010

30 for 30 is an awesome series. The U, the Best that Never Was, The Two Escobars, Ali-Holmes, Unmatched (Evert-Navratolova), The Band that Wouldn\'t Die (Baltimore Colts) and the Reggie Miller episode are my favorites.  The Two Escobars could have been shown in theaters, it was that good.

I came away from the Dupree episode think that he is a well-adjusted, productive member of society. He really doesn\'t seem bitter about anything.

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - washingtonismoney - 12-02-2010

Well, if we\'re into plugging various 30 for 30 episodes, I thought the Allen Iverson doc was pretty excellent. (It was done by the same director who did Hoop Dreams, which is also a superb documentary.)

Re: Not that I believe this stuff, but... - mark3k - 12-02-2010

Anyone who\'s ever been involved with, or a fan of, Little League should find a way to see the story ESPN did on Cody Webster (the start of the 1982 team from Kirkland, WA that upset the then-dominant team from Taiwan).

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=5514329

Late to the party but... - Redrum - 12-02-2010

yes. Dupree WAS that good.   Oklahoma had made the wishbone a famous offense, but abandoned the wishbone offense for the I-formation,  just to make sure that Dupree got as many touches as possible.

The most entertaining part was the recruitment,  with schools sending coaches to live full time in his small Mississippi town to seal the deal.  The family would schedule visits, allowing whatever coach 15 minutes.  He\'d arrive, one of his rivals would be walking out, while the guy who had been waiting on the porch went in.   The coach would take his place on the porch,  then go in when it was his turn...and hold the door for the next coach who had been waiting on the porch after him.  Crazy.